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[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Importing workers to make 16.84/hr. Just what American is going to accept that kind of wage when the boss is getting grants of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

The immigrant would have to work 11,876 hours to earn the 200k handout that the boss gets for hiring him seasonally for two years. How is this sustainable? Are we all going to be working to subsidize farmers by 100k/year to hire a single foreign farmhand?

Not to mention the program for that grant has only 141 members... it just doesn't make sense.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

I thought that Covid would have been enough of a trial run for that.

At least in my country it was that. You know, it was Covid, with the highest unemployment rate since quite a long time, and farmers ran nation-wide ads looking for workers. They increased the pay sometimes up to 2-3x. They promised housing in nice hotels. And still, nobody wanted to do the job and that year there was just no strawberries on the shelves.

The only way working as a farm hand makes sense is if:

  • The workers have no decent other option
  • Working on a farm is safer than working at home
  • Money is worth a lot more where they are from, so that the meagre salary they make in the target country is worth multiple times of that back home, so that the €1000-1200 they make over here turn into the equivalent purchasing power of €4000-6000 back home.
[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 40 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well yeah. Turns out people who aren't in fear of being deported won't work for a fraction of minimum wage paid under the table.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I mean, it's not so much the fear of deportation so much as the fact that lower wages go farther in Mexico. Most Mexicans who illegally immigrate do so simply because it makes economic sense. If the wages were so low that it didn't make economic sense to them, then they would simply return to Mexico voluntarily.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 43 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

They'll start calling to use prison labor soon enough. Prisons are commercial facilities anyway and could use some cash. And there are more African American in prison proportionally so that's a bonus for MAGA. Police will get their cut for putting more people in prison. That way the new racist slave labor gets established.

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 30 points 5 hours ago

That is already happening at scale

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 17 points 5 hours ago

That's definitely the plan, and they'll be using private, for-profit prison companies. One is a facility in Louisiana that has been closed twice due to abuse and torture of inmates, and has been reopened as an ICE facility they've been stashing the students arrested for pro-Palestinian protests there. The Columbia student who just got released was being held there.

They are also building a 30,000 bed facility at Guantanamo Bay. The $250 million dollar contract has been awarded, and it's underway. For context, the average maximum security prison hold 800-1200 people, with the largest in Angola, LA holding about 8400. So this new facility is nearly 4 times larger than the largest prison, which is already several times larger than average. Clearly, they intend to house MANY people there.

It's my belief that they will eventually take the position that if you can't stay actively employed (due to AI, robotics, automation, discrimination, etc.) and require the help of the government to survive, then they will house and feed you in exchange for renting you out as slave labor. That way, they can say they solved the homeless problems, even though all they did was turn them into slaves.

And the MAGA followers will go along with it, happy that the "parasites" are being forced to work. Besides, they've been hoping for slavery to return since 1865. The only legal slavery in America is prison labor, and like MAGA always does, they intend to exploit the shit out of that Amendment.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 48 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

This is part of the plan. Small farms will be run out of business and then bought for a low price and consolidated by mega farms.

Big Agriculture wants this and lobbies for it to happen.

[–] tauisgod@lemmy.world 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

What a coincidence that the VP has a financial interest in independent farms going bankrupt.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I definitely believe this, but do you have a source I can point to for others?

[–] tauisgod@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Snopes is appalling.

So Vance owns a fraction of a company that owns a fraction of a company that allows fractional ownership of farmland. They can only sell to accredited investors so the headline is false but snopes don't have the balls to admit it.

I'm not saying he has no interest in making farmland cheap, but Tarrif insider knowledge is multiple times more profitable than trying to influence farmland prices through labor costs.

[–] tauisgod@lemmy.world 1 points 59 minutes ago

Something something Hilary Clinton and uranium. Funny how that was a big issue until it went through anyway and wasn't. It's almost as if these crooks aren't serious

[–] derry@midwest.social 8 points 6 hours ago

Another 80s reboot

[–] ErrorCode@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago

I heard this story during his last administration. Assclowns never learn.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 58 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

These red voting MAGA fucks were receiving grants to hire labor and they claim socialism is bad. I have zero sympathy for their problems and this is another classic FAFO situation.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 9 points 5 hours ago

they claim socialism is bad

They mean compassion for the out-groups.

[–] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but if the farm work doesn't get done you are looking at the next thing which will be the great American famine, which I expect somewhere this summer. If the US food production falters and importing food is made very expensive though tarriffs, Americans are not going to have enough food.

It's going to be like post revolutionary China in so many ways.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 8 points 6 hours ago

AND ITS ALL BIDEN'S FAULT!

/S, so you don't think I'm one of those MAGA Nazis who actually, truly believe that.

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[–] Chiarottide@lemmy.world 47 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Repeat with me, class: There are no bad jobs, only bad conditions

[–] TechWizard@sh.itjust.works 30 points 8 hours ago

No shit jobs only shit wages.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 8 hours ago

In a place where local, legal help was nearly impossible to keep<' the Post is reporting before adding, "But then Trump,

At least three typo mistakes in this article. The degree of publish-fast-don't-edit in our "journalism" is off the scale. I hate it.

Anyway, this is what you voted for, asshole.

[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 28 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

The idea is so badly implemented... you have to raise back Unions and decent salaries, what they expecting is that actual born americans will do the same job for the same shit money that desperate migrants who have absolutely nothing.

So in essence they want the new slaves to be US born, yeah fuck that.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 17 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Society needs more unions period.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 9 points 7 hours ago

I'm a medical student applying for residency this year, and the top program I'm interested in is at the top of my list partially because the residents have a union.

[–] canajac@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago

Fucking right, unions are for the people and any damn company that hates them is against giving people a working wage that gives them a life. PERIOD Fuck anti-union politicians! Power to the people!

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 5 points 6 hours ago

new slaves to be US born

Prison labor. And what minority is overrepresented in prison?

[–] EverXIII@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Question: Are you getting great already?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Actually feeling far less great than any time in my fairly long life.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 77 points 11 hours ago (8 children)

You mean that the job isn't worth what you pay to do. They always pretend it isn't the money. But of course its the money. If I'm going to work my ass off I expect better pay. Those immigrants were working their ass off for minimum wage and the farmers knew they were exploiting them.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

Literally everything in America is about how much money you have, but God forbid you ask an employer how much they're going to pay you. Because at your job what really matters is FAMILY. It's like, give me a fucking break.

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 14 points 8 hours ago

Any pretty much any physical job comes with copious risks to your body and health, yet these types of employers typically don't pay for employee health plans nor do they pay enough for employees to comfortably afford their own. Why would anybody want to risk severing a finger, breaking a leg, getting bitten by a dangerous snake, a nail to the hand, etc if they don't have to, especially knowing they can't afford the treatment and it could lead to lifelong pain and disability?

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[–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 28 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Time for Mexico to pump up its own agriculture to supply the goods that will be needed on the other side of the fence. Labor is plenty now.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

Mexico and Canada have been investing in agricultural infrastructure for decades now. The only reason that the U.S. farmer can compete is due to shenanigans in import requirements. Imports are held to a much higher standard than domestic production. It's why the majority of foodborne outbreaks are from American production.

American farmers have been conditioned to rely on cheap labor and expensive equipment. There's been only been minor infrastructure investment since the 1970's.

Without government subsidies and cheap labor, the majority of the farmers business models in the us is not sustainable.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 53 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

What's that? Southern states running on cheap labour can't cope with the loss of that labour? Where have we heard that before?

Fool me once and all that, but they actually voted for it this time round...

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Good! No exploiters should be able to sustain their practices.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The leopard of eating faces is going to become obese after the end of this year

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