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Satellite imagery taken after the US strike on Iran's Fordow site showed smoke rising from the fuel enrichment plant. US President Donald Trump claimed key Iranian nuclear sites had been "obliterated," while Iran claimed it had removed nuclear material from the sites before the strikes.

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[–] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 137 points 3 days ago (6 children)

The United states is a terrorist country.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (13 children)

The administration running the country are terrorists who target people, domestic and foreign. Please don't blame the people.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Saying “The United States is a terrorist country” is exactly not blaming the working class people. The state itself is run by and operated by fascist terrorists.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (15 children)

I’m an American and I hate to break this to you but the people elected this clown. That’s how it works here. You didn’t vote for him? Okay. But until you’re doing absolutely everything you can to prevent people like him being elected, you don’t get to just shrug off responsibility. I know exactly two people who are doing everything they can, and neither of them is me.

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[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

This orange maniac and his entourage could only get this far because of a good portion of "the people".

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You disagree with the current war, the entire world is on fire because of US imperialism and colonization, and you can't distance yourself from all the benefits and pride you get from the "good side" of America.

Just like you can't separate America from it's history of being built on the backs of slaves and the institutional oppression that still comes from that, you can't separate your current comforts as an American from their direct causes: oppression and stealing the resources of other nations and using all your "most deadly military's" best stealth bombers and biggest bombs to bully the world through threats of regime change and economic sanctions. Trump isn't what's bad about America, he's just an accelerated conclusion to neo-liberal politics, this is Bill Clinton's America!

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[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Isn't that what the US constantly does other countries?

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago

I would agree with you.

but after years of propaganda saying that Gaza needs to be killed because of a 2006 election. I think that logic needs to be applied to the country making that propaganda. The US voted for it very recently, no excuses.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I live in the US. I blame 40% of the people at a minimum, and likely more than that.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

60%. Non-voters don't get a pass.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I hope you don't think it's just the current administration. I don't blame the majority of the populace (in the same way I don't blame the average Israeli or Russian for example), but as a political entity this is nothing new for the USA.

Edit: or rather, from the outside looking in, this doesn't feel particularly off brand

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

"The administration" is (usually!) used to refer to the monolithic entity that continues without interruption (office of the prez, congress etc), "this administration" is used to refer to the specific current government/clarify in cases of ambiguity. Weird quirks of american english, what fun...

(Not disagreeing to be clear. Although this is a bit more transparently "dancing to the tune of the puppet master" than most of the US's other forays into the mid. east, I must say.)

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You kinda have to, as it is a democracy, at least on paper...

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Death from the sky wherever we judge it to be right. It’s some Death Star shit.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

America is the model the Nazis looked up to.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I've heard that before too but if you are going to try and convince anyone an actual source will help.

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[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Those neat little slider things that do a great job of showing before and after typically work better when the images are aligned.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Also, having the handle on the middle of the picture instead of underneath is awful on mobile where you can't see anything because of your own finger.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Grab it with your finger and then move your finger down, you can then swipe left and right without blocking it

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

There's a region around the handle where you can grab it to slide left-right but also be scrolling the page up and down, defeating the attempt to move the finger out of the way.

The first time I tried it I kept hitting that region, but I see now that with a bit more precision you can avoid the up-down segment.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I thought we needed to use nukes to penetrate their nuclear sites. Either that was a lie or these attacks did not do what Trump is saying it did.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 18 points 3 days ago

I read they didn't knew if it's going to work or not. They still don't know if it worked. Trump says it worked because he's Trump.

[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The US used 14 of their largest bunker busters (GBU-57) at the Fordow facility. That's as close as you can get to nuclear without actual nukes. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/22/how-effective-was-the-us-attack-on-irans-nuclear-sites-a-visual-guide

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Bunker busters only have about 2300kg of payload, the rest of the weight is the penetrator body.

The bombs are rated at destroying a 20m radius.

There is some evidence that these penetrators can be guided away from targets by clever architecture. (A reinforced diamond cross-swcrioned concrete beam for instance can guide the penetrator away from its target)

Long story short we don't know if these did anything.

Here is the presentation that talks about it https://youtu.be/TriASB-F5UY

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Bunker busters only have about 2kg of payload,

Nope. Please note: when an American writes 2.082 lb, he's not meaning 2 pounds and tidbits. He's meaning 2000 pounds. AFX and PBXN are not glitter, they're explosives. :)

Filling AFX-757/PBXN-114

Filling weight 4,590 / 752 lb (2,082 / 341 kg)

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yep I meant 2000kg apparently. Thanks for the correction

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I think they lost funding from USAID, so I don't know what it is now.

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