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Donald Trump has said that he will withhold funding for New York City if presumptive Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani becomes mayor after November’s general election and doesn’t do the “right thing.”

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

That's fascism

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 294 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Oh but blue states not giving federal taxes over is "starting a civil war."

The civil war is already happening. Wake the fuck up people.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Or it's not, and that's the problem. The organised rightwing forces of state repression can easily push around a left that's been trained and groomed to function as entirely beholden to corporate sponsors and big money donors.

...to the point it's now visible and blatant that the establishment left cannot stand and legitimately claim even the possibility they are the solution.

Because the solution is something more revolutionary that will cause bloodshed and more regular interruptions to people's daily lives.

So of course, keep your head down, hope none of this effects you. Ignore that it already has. The dems will fix it later, ect....

It's understandable to ignore the civil war even though it's not rational to.

Terrorists (freedom fighters) are made as needed, they're not born ready. Trump's administration will be looking to stay under that threshold.

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[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 191 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Mamdani won a mayoral primary, hasn’t even been elected yet and the hype on all sides is enormous.

Really hope New Yorkers dig in and back this dude.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 74 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He was already the favorite, Trump's endorsement here will cinch that up

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I'm pretty sure new Yorkers hate trump more than the Eagles, Red Sox, Patriots, and Mets combined.

[–] Lucelu2@lemmy.zip 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You know what??? NY will survive. We survived prior to the Revolution. We survived after the Revolution and before the Constitution. We will continue this... and honestly, the FEDS do fucking nothing for us and why do they deserve to be paid??? They are fucking loafing political lying fucks. Fuck them and fire them.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 163 points 4 days ago (3 children)

that is how you know he is the right candidate, Trump is an inverse indicator

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can tell the quality of someone's character by the enemies he makes.

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[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

I predict Mamdani and Trump will have similar arcs through the media landscape. The media hated Trump but just couldn't stop paying attention to him, even though every time they attacked him it only made him stronger. Now they are all bending the knee to him.

The same exact thing is happening with Mamdani, but this time for all the best reasons. Mamdani's campaign might easily become a nationwide avalanche.

[–] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

might easily become a nationwide avalanche

Anecdotally, I have fairly non-political coworkers in other states that are hyping up Mamdani. His reach across Gen Z is honestly insane and people are even making TikTok/Instagram hype edits of him all the time

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 114 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I know nothing about this man.

But since Trump hates him he must be awsome

[–] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 80 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Mamdani is a NYC mayorial candidate who is a member of DSA, pro-palestine, has stated that he would have Netanyahu arrested if he came to NYC, and is running on a platform of:

  • Fast and free buses within NYC
  • Rent freeze every year for New Yorkers in rent stabilized housing
  • City owned and operated grocery stores
  • Creation of a Department of Community Safety to tackle mental health challenges rather than NYPD
  • UPK
[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Creation of a Department of Community Safety to tackle mental health challenges rather than NYPD

This type of program has been working out well for Albuquerque. It removes a lot of police intervention for calls they aren't trained for (anything not involving a weapon, pretty much).

https://www.kob.com/new-mexico/acs-reports-94-success-rate-in-violence-intervention-program/

https://csgjusticecenter.org/publications/expanding-first-response/program-highlights/albuquerque-nm/

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 9 points 4 days ago

UPK = universal pre-kindergarten

(Source: I just looked it up because I didn't have a clue!)

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 days ago

Now there's plenty of reasons to consider him awesome - those have been listed by more serious comments than mine.

But did you know he used to rap?

Also, right-wing media tried to brand him "Zohran the Destroyer" and very promptly stopped doing so when they realized it sounds way too cool. Apparently he's going to destroy NYC by advocating for 1) raised minimum wage, 2) universal free daycare, 3) A working fucking bus system. He's got personal experience with the problems of the bus system, numbers, a working proof of concept, and a plan to Trump-Proof the city

I'm not even American and I'm rooting for him. Both because he might actually improve people's lives and because he just seems awesome. Been a long time I've seen a politician with his charisma, enthusiasm, and vision. I hope NYC votes him into the office!

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Then join hands with New England and the west coast and starve them back, because that's who has the money.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

That would only work with like-minded politicians. Old Democrats have spent more energy complaining about Mamdani in the past month than Trump's current presidential run.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I actually think that conservative journals like the WSJ have created the appearance that Democrats are anti-Mamdani, in an attempt to "divide and conquer" democrats.

i actually see a surprisingly positive response to Mamdani from democratic movements all across the US.

[–] Lucelu2@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago

Hey, I am an old Xer and have come to the realization that the reason we lost last election (other than the cheating but decentralized voting almost always wins over cheating)... is because we listened to those "Never Trump Republicans" and embraced the Cheneys and others. That was exactly the wrong tack. We should have embraced instead the Bernie/AOC and Elizabeth faction. That would have communicated to the people that we actually cared about their life circumstances in this post-Covid, war infected supply chain challenged economy. Let the New Economics/Distributist peeps inform us with some resilient strategies. We are Fucking Tired of the Old Ideas.

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 8 points 3 days ago

Bingo. The media is entirely captured, obviously, and people don't understand what's really going on as a result.

[–] Lucelu2@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So... what you are saying is that it is time to separate the wheat from the chaff. Those old fuckers need to retire and try to still appear wise.... they are fucking failures and should know it.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Yeah, we need to support David Hogg's initiative to primary old useless Dems.

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[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 146 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Lmao, damn, trump seems really scared of this guy.

All the conservatives seem really scared of this guy.

Wonder why republicans might be scared of Democratic candidates left of dead center. Almost like a real alternative not slobbering out neoliberal, Chicago school of economics, nonsense could sweep them in a lot of traditional safe seats.

Or at least be really hard to rally their base against if their base actually hears what the policies are.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well of course. He's charismatic, young and he talks to the people he wants to represent. He's the antithesis of everything they are.

[–] thebeardedpotato@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

With the current state of affairs, I’m worried he’s going to fall out of a window and shoot himself in the back of the head

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

This is how the president responds to the democratic process...

I am so glad this guy is scaring the everloving fuck out of the right and the DINOs. I want a legion of folk just like him to run for office in every state and every office so we can sweep away the remnants of the old guard.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

He is copying Orbán in Hungary. He also "starved" the capital city because they elected an opposition mayor. The city is near bankruptcy at the moment. But hey, mini Trump also wanted to ban the Pride march there last Saturday, and as a result he made it the biggest mass event of the past 10 years.

So if things happen similarly, Trump might be able to actually do this, but it might just ruin his chances at the next election - provided there will be another one, according to him.

How will the federal government move forward if California & New York withhold their federal taxes?

New York & California are the real US's incomes.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 84 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Just FYI: withholding money is financial abuse, a favorite tactic of abusers, since it leaves no visible marks until significant damage is done.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I still am laughing at what Wonkette used for their image and headline on how the qons are reacting to Mamdani.. 🤣 🤣 🤣

"Wingnuts Exactly As Calm As You'd Expect Over Mamdani's NYC Primary Win" https://www.wonkette.com/p/wingnuts-exactly-as-calm-as-youd

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

This is a still from Big Trouble In Little China, for the curious.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This shows that waiting to 2026 and hoping that Dems will take over Congress is really pointless. They won't acknowledge and certify any results that aren't their people.

At this point we either fight or accept end of US as a democracy.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

We do not fight on their terms.

They want battles in the streets. They want explosives, dead feds and cops.

They want 258,000,000 dead Americans. They don't give two shits what side it's on.

A Mayoral election giving the elite this much terror is extremely telling. The GOP didn't work the top down, they worked the bottom up. Local governments, states, and the branches of the Federal government.

If NYC can get this guy elected, then the doubt that fascists need to instill in the idea of democracy gets bolstered, and they have to do things that will be even more unpopular than kidnapping immigrants.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 51 points 4 days ago

This Mamdani guy is BAD NEWS! He wants to GIVE YOU BACK your Tax Dollars in the Form of Food and Healthcare and Transportation! That's LUDICROUS! DO the Right Thing New York and Elect the Politician who will CONTINUE GIVING YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO THE BILLIONAIRES DESTROYING YOUR DAILY WAY OF LIFE!

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

ok, taco. can't wait for the day he walks this back and act like he's on top of things

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 44 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Good thing New York doesn’t need it and provides money for the federal government. It’s more like New York will stop till they get their shit together.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Another way to escalate this situation is to raise the taxes on billionaires enough to account for the missing revenue from the federal government. Itemize it and call it the "Trump tax".

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[–] YoiksAndAway@lemmy.zip 45 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And we're right back to election interference. I wonder if something will be done about it this time.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 days ago

I mean doesn't he already threaten that even when a centrist or conservative Democrat is elected?

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If that happens, time for more mass protests. Surround the White House and stop anyone from entering and leaving until funding to NYC is restored.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 34 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This sounds like more of the "socialism never works [because conservatives/capitalists sabotage it]"

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[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 days ago (20 children)

Can someone share some insight with us non Americans, how close are you to a civil war? Between the LA protests and this it seems very imminent

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 52 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Eh, bread and circuses. People are still relatively comfortable and complacent.

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