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Red meat has a huge carbon footprint because cattle requires a large amount of land and water.

https://sph.tulane.edu/climate-and-food-environmental-impact-beef-consumption

Demand for steaks and burgers is the primary driver of Deforestation:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-beef-industry-fueling-amazon-rainforest-destruction-deforestation/

https://e360.yale.edu/features/marcel-gomes-interview

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2023-06-02/almost-a-billion-trees-felled-to-feed-appetite-for-brazilian-beef

If you don't have a car and rarely eat red meat, you are doing GREAT πŸ™ŒπŸ™Œ πŸ™Œ

Sure, you can drink tap water instead of plastic water. You can switch to Tea. You can travel by train. You can use Linux instead of Windows AI's crap. Those are great ideas. But, don't drive yourself crazy. If you are only an ordinary citizen, remember that perfect is the enemy of good.

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[–] drsilverworm@midwest.social 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The single best thing you can do for the climate is not existing. The next best thing is not having kids. The lifetime of consumption of a person is out of the equation without that person. Until we figure out how to live sustainably on this earth, overpopulation is a real problem.

Edit: To be clear, I want you to still exist with us in this world. Especially since I don't believe in any kind of afterlife. I'm just stating a tough truth with no clear action statement, besides maybe figuring put how to live truly carbon-neutral. Some things are just a catch-22.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

You first, buddy.

If not, this is just a slippery slope argument to "those other people shouldn't exist/have babies". That's just the door to eco-fascism.

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Until Exxon and BP are no longer in business and global shipping transitions to zero emissions, there is nothing an individual human can do that will have an impact in any way on global climate. They problem is systemic, not individual

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (7 children)

question, how come beef is so cheap it's it takes so much resources?

if it's just subsidies, then we should get rid of them

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (12 children)

The most important takeaway for the target group:

β€œIf you’re trying to reduce your carbon footprint, eat less beef,” Rose advises. β€œYou don’t have to give it up entirely, but cutting back or making substitutions can make a significant impact.”

Any fewer beef meals you have helps. We're also just talking beef here. If you choose pork, chicken, fish, or even game meat over beef you're helping the climate.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (8 children)

We need significant subsidies invested into vat grown meat. But now Big Ag is getting it banned in every state it can. Texas and Florida have already banned it.

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I've been the bane of chickens all my life...

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Accounting for emissions per kilogram isn't that fair, can we account for emissions per 1000 kilocalorie? Or emissions per protein?

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Taking planes, another big CO2 contributor. The sky is full of planes burning fuel.

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[–] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

For me, this wasn't too hard. Cheese on the other hand..that will be a challenge

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[–] JaceTheGamerDesigner@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

We could really use a movement to get more people to try adding beans, peas, and tofu to their grocery list. I wasn't able to stick to not eating meat, but sticking to eating less meat by adding alternatives to my grocery list turned out to be quite easy.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I've got a special trick where I can make pretty much the entire internet rage at me. Check it out:

I'm vegetarian.

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[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Not having kids is a whole order of magnitude more impactful. Or even just having one kid instead of 2 or 3+.

Being alive is bad for the environment.

[–] kapulsa@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Yes, that is great on an individual level.

But the best thing to do overall for our environment and climate is supporting protest movements, especially those employing nonviolent civil disobedience. Per pound/dollar/euro, they reduce emissions the most. But if you can, attend events in person.

This should not neglect that we need both individual and system change and they depend on each other. You should reduce your meat consumption and advocate for a world where everyone reduces meat consumption (and even become vegan or at least vegetarian).

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

But how am I supposed to get to work at the co2 factory in my house sized truck on time when those fucking hippies glue themselves to the road??

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[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's never about personal responsibility. You can smug about not eating red meat, driving electric or not having children, but it doesn't change the reality: the climate is changing.

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[–] remon@ani.social 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This can easily be solved with a bottle of food colouring. I've compleltly replaced my red meat with blue meat. Problem solved.

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