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[–] netwren@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (6 children)

So wallpapers, clock changes on lock screen, and updated credential manager which I assume is the latest push for Passkeys.

That qualifies a major version change? It kinda sucks that we've stagnated in mobile OS improvements. You just don't really see anything radically different or innovative anymore.

[–] z2k_@lemmy.nz 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Feature wise most mobile OS's are pretty mature so it's only natural to see less "improvements" compared to the early days.

Use your favourite Lemmy client for example, the first month of development every release brought a bunch of new features and improvements but these days the releases are all pretty small.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 5 points 2 years ago

That's fair. I've switched to thinking of it like a rolling release. This is the latest edition. It's like a maintenance release with the few treats baked in rather than the bare minimum security patches.

[–] ChristianWS@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Also cloned apps which is big for me

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

I think that didn't make into Android 14

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] r_se_random@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Having 2 different instances of the same app. Samsung provides this for most messaging apps.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oh nice!!!!

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

See am I crazy or didn't google say this was a thing coming ages ago?

Also disabling apps. Am I also crazy or did that come and go and only ever work on certain ones? I really do sometimes find it useful to disable apps instead of uninstalling them. When you uninstall you need to configure them all over again when you do the reinstall.

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

Because when someone tries to be radical and innovative everyone screams "GIMMICK! JUST GIVE ME AN UPDATE THAT ADDS BASIC FEATURES!"

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

What would be considered radical according to you, then?

Not that I disagree with you, though..

[–] On@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  • Significant battery life improvements

  • Granular Internet Acess Control (Give users option to prohibit apps from connecting to data or Wi-Fi)

  • Something native like KDE Connect or Your Phone from Microsoft

  • Something like Samsung Dex

  • Unlimited Paypal money generator

There are so many things Google could do.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm on board with the unlimited PayPal money generator.

For the battery life, honestly I could live with phones being 2mm thicker for 24 more hours of battery power. But people (or companies) are obsessed with slim devices.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe I'm confused on the KDE connect part, but you can install KDE connect on windows.

Dex is cool, wanted this too, I'd probably make good use of this type of capability on the steam deck instead though.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Samsung Dex, coming to Android when the Pixel 8 releases.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That's actually a really cool feature, and I'm surprised this wasn't done before given how powerful phones have been for some time now.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf -1 points 2 years ago

We? No, there's a tonne of innovation still to be had, but when the goal is profits, it's easier to play it safe and protect those margins.

[–] PreciousPig@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What happened to the webcam-over-USB feature that was promised? Just updated to 14 and went into charge-settings but no webcam option. Tried two USB-cables and both mac and Windows but no go. Was this confirmed to be scrapped? Was my most hyped feature 😭

[–] talab@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's listed on their official update video so it does exist. But it says "on compatible devices and countries" so might only be on the newest phones so far?

https://youtu.be/wEVaHobjbPw

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[–] PreciousPig@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'm on Pixel 6a so not ancient... Seems like it will release in another update before year end so here's hoping πŸ™

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's in the next QPR update.

[–] PreciousPig@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Thx, then I'll just have to wait a bit longer.

[–] InVeloVeritas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it's in the current QPR beta. You need to register for the beta program, which will give you access to the new features they're testing for the December feature drop.

[–] PreciousPig@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Thx, I'll just wait it out then. At least it's not scrapped.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I hope it has the ability to remove the Google search bar from the home screen

EDIT: got the update, still can't get rid of the search bar on the default launcher :(

[–] Brokkr@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (5 children)

You could always use a different launcher to do this. I like Nova Launcher, but there are lots of good options.

[–] prograhammingdev@lemmy.prograhamming.com 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nova being bought out by a third party ad company made that a no go for me nowadays :(

[–] zzzz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

KISS launcher FTW. I could never go back to a standard launcher now.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You can still use the APK of the version before the buyout. That's what I'm doing until I find a mature replacement

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

Custom launchers are a huge no to me if they don't support Quickswitch... thanks again to Google/Android for breaking the animations....

I hope that A14 fixes this.

[–] PaperTowel@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

In loving Kvaesitso. It integrates really well with Nextcloud and Google Drive. And has a ton of other cool features.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

My current goto for an alternate launcher is Ruthless Launcher

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

lawnchair works best for me atm but it's really out of date and hasn't been updated in ages 😭

[–] ink@r.nf 5 points 2 years ago

Search and ads are their bread and butter, Android is there to get you personalized ads. They're not going to give them up as defaults.

They even mess up split screen when you choose a different launcher. that's just a dark pattern to make you use google more

[–] sajran@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It doesn't. I would really like that too...

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

yeah I just finished updating and found out 😩

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Huh, the update is going out to 4a 5G but not the 4G version... Is my phone already depreciated?

[–] macallik@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Yup. Came out a few months before the 4a 5G:
https://endoflife.date/pixel

[–] macallik@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Didn't expect a lot out of A14 tbh. I think that Operating Systems have matured to become mostly an intermediary between the user and apps as opposed to the conductor. As long as they stay out of the way, most users will be content.

Personally tho, I wouldn't be surprised if 15 is a huge release. Right now, the next frontier seems to obviously be transitioning phones towards AI personal assistants and w/ full integration. Microsoft is already leading the charge from the desktop OS front, but phones imo will be the most familiar integration opportunity.