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Why Is Gov. Gavin Newsom Blocking Rooftop Solar in California? Follow the money. (www.motherjones.com)

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 55 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Because Gavin Newsom is not on our side, he is a useful villain/punching bag for the right. That is his role, he pretends to be on our side so he can create the media moments for conservatives to clip when they dunk on him while he simultaneously fucks over Californians for power and profit. Gavin Newsom is perfectly groomed to be the most insufferable and ineffectual Californian liberal politician possible, that is the point.

How well this works on liberals is terrifying but unsurprising.

Gavin Newsom is NOT on our side, please get this through your head, he is your enemies best friend.

[+] sleepyleaf@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If Newsom was acting the part of the most "insufferable" California liberal possible, he wouldn't be attacking trans girls in sports, or jailing homeless people for being homeless, or crippling environmental regulations to build more subdivisions, to name just three of his shitty conservative policies.

I disagree, I mean I agree that all of those things are shitty and that Gavin Newsom has done them but all I hear from liberals is "Oh look at Gavin Newsom standing up to Trump!". What I am saying is that by and large liberals are so unserious about their political beliefs that they will easily brush aside all of those clearly conservative things happening as lies told by leftists whining about wanting to instead try unrealistic idealistic solutions that will never work and thus liberals allow a figure like Gavin Newsom to be unironically conservative while retaining a voting liberal base loyally as the Bulwark Against Trump.

I disagree because this is exactly what an insufferable liberal looks like they don't actually give a shit about policy or improving people's lives, they just like the aesthetics of these things without any substance.

Liberals only care about trans people so far as it is a talking point to set up two sides to argue about politics on, as a demographic they accept wherever Conservatives set up the goal posts and dutifully take the opposing side as a way to virtue signal they are different without having to actually take a hard look at their lives.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Newsom is starting to look a whole fucking lot like controlled opposition, tbh. Theatrical (and sometimes, incidentally effective, but that doesn’t appear to be the root motivation) pushback on right wing stuff for the most part. And quiet acquiescence to a LOT of stuff that someone who actually gives a shit about lefty things would not tolerate.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I can already hear the vote blue no matter who people in 2027/8 calling me a Russian shill for pointing out he abandoned trans people the second it became politically expedient 🫠 Or if I’m really lucky, arguing with me over how abandoning trans people is actually necessary or not happening or whatever else.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

when our politics are shaped by who we’re voting against because our parties refuse to give us anyone to vote for

[–] manxu@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

That was definitely a red line for me, too. I gave him credit for being incredibly vocal about equal marriage in 2004, way ahead of other politicians, but something seems to have drastically changed and moved him to the right.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

Or if I’m really lucky, arguing with me over how abandoning trans people is actually necessary or not happening or whatever else.

The centrists are already deep in that territory. They've always wanted to trade sexual/gender minorities for more conservatives. Harris shitting the bed is just the convenient excuse.

[–] zwerg@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Is the republican any better? How easy is it to replace him as the Democratic candidate?

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why did you take this as an invitation to start 2 years early?

Why do you think this isn’t something any given trans person has already thought about?

Are you volunteering to help keep him off the ballot, or do you just want to yell at me for pointing out the ways he fucks over my community specifically?

[–] zwerg@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm just a European trying to figure out what the options are...

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Right now nobody is on the ballot because the primaries don’t happen until 2027.

People are talking about Newsom making a presidential run because it’s extremely obvious he’s gearing up for a run, and part of the way he’s doing that is by dumping ‘controversial’ trans rights in order to court centrists and Republicans. Another is by signaling to big businesses (like electrical companies) that he’s going to work for them, and not citizens.

You can help keep him off the ballot by telling everyone who talks about him what a shithead he is, and how he will trample over anyone to chase lobbyist money.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

Three and a half years away and here we go again already. Trump wins a third term because newsom doesn’t want trans people to play sports.

[–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ikr, how do you get a big enough group of people to vote third party, and how do you confirm that party isnt a siphon for the republicans..

[–] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago

Newsom is starting to look a whole fucking lot like controlled opposition, tbh.

Not from your country, but after watching one of his speeches and reading a few articles, you would have to be fuckin' braindead to not see this. It was obvious as fuck.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump took the Republican to the far, far right. The Democrats moved to take the place the Republicans left open. So now Newsom is no better than 2016 Republicans. Wonder that Trump now taking ttem even further this go around that Democrats haven't gone full nut Republican. Why do you think Democrats always trying to cort Republican voters then try win over the left.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well I think they try courting the tight because they vote more consistently then the left. Not voting isn't a protest it just means nobody cares about your opinion, because politically you don't matter.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

The whole DNC establishment is controlled opposition.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

A series of policies that ranged from disincentivizing to straight-up penalizing homeowners who have embraced rooftop solar. “Everybody likes to talk about how Florida and Texas are out-competing California right now on renewable energy,” says Bernadette Del Chiaro, a VP at the Environmental Working Group. “And there is a whole lot of truth to it, because California is totally getting in its own way.”

I mean, tap the breaks. Texas and Florida are also working to undermine rooftop solar.

But the incentives for the rollout are often too strong. The Texas electric grid - loosely managed by ERCOT in order to maximize revenues for gas electric power utilities - have resulted in a blowback of routine brownouts and sky high seasonal bills. Florida's own utility mismanagement, worsened by sever weather and routine major flooding events, has resulted in a DIY home electricity approach.

California's own degraded and dysfunctional state grids have produced the same perverse incentives, even as wind and solar farms flourish thanks to the sub-fossil fuel price for installation by the MWh. This is unfortunate because rooftop solar simply isn't as efficient as the industrial scale utility-level projects that power the grid as a whole. Rooftop solar is a backstop against price gouging and grid malfunction, but it isn't in any way cost-efficient relative to a public sector wholesale rate for electricity.

Green Energy should be a windfall for electricity consumers, but it is turning into a price ceiling for greedy privatized utility companies, instead.

[–] griff@lemmings.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

same as the Oldsom