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Daily reminder that Codeberg is always the good alternative to corporate bastards like this idiot
I don't get it. AI is a tool. My CEO didn't care about what tools I use, as long as I got the job done. Why do they suddenly think they have to force us to use a certain tool to get the job done? They are clueless, yet they think they know what we need.
Because like AI, your CEO is a tool.
GitHub is owned by Microsoft, and Microsoft is forcing AI on all the employees
Honestly I've been recommending setting up a personal git store and cloning any project you like, I imagine the next phase of this is Microsoft making a claim that if Copilot 'assisted' all these projects, Microsoft is a part owner of all these projects - in a gambit to swallow and own open source.
Because unlike with the other tools you use the CEO of your company is investing millions of dollars into AI and they want a big return on their investment.
I don't think these CEOs have quite figured out that LLM developers are creating something that can more easily replace a CEO than a developer.
Return? No, there is no return on investment from AI. If there really was a return to be had from Devs, you wouldn't have to force them to use it.
This is a saving face and covering their asses exercise. Option 1 is "We spent the money, nobody's using it, the bubbles gonna burst", the other choice is "if we can ramp up the usage numbers before the earnings call, we can get some of that sweet investor money to buy us out of being mauled by our shareholders".
It's shitty management, making shitty decisions to cover up their previous shitty decisions
Why do they suddenly think they have to force us to use a certain tool to get the job done?
Not just that... why do they have to threat and push for people to use a tool that allegedly is fantastic and makes everything better and faster?... the answer is that it does not work but they need to pump the numbers to keep the bubble going
I think part of it is because they think they can train models off developers, then replace them with models. The other is that the company is heavily invested in coding LLMs and the tooling for them, so they are trying to hype them up.
This part really stuck out for me:
This is the latest example of a strange marketing strategy by AI companies. Instead of selling products based on helpful features and letting users decide, executives often deploy scare tactics that essentially warn people they will become obsolete if they don't get on the AI bandwagon.
If hype doesn't work, try threats!
Which is how you know they have a good product that they have full faith in.
when they have to blackmail, threaten, coerce, and force people to accept their product.
CEOs, embrace torches and pitchforks.
Copilot is shit.
I'm looking out in the street. I see a lack of torches, pitchforks, or any pressure on corporate interests.
Don't worry, they're gonna eat themselves doing shit just like this. It's not a matter of if, but when.
"AI" has it's uses (medicine, engineering, etc.), but 99.99% of the snake oil they're selling are just gimmicky cash grabs. Classic cases of Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Let them burn their money, I say. Fuck it. Just sit back and enjoy the fire.
We will see corporate douche.
Bro you are literally not necessary, not even the best at what you do. See everyone on codeberg.
Codeberg is so nice.
But who else is going to micromanage and bully the employees and strut around self-importantly doing jack shit? /s
Get out or what? GitHub?
I don’t understand this insistence that all developers must use AI.
If AI made a developer better, why insist, wouldn’t the vibe coders outcompete all others?
Wouldn’t they need non AI coders to train things?
Or is it because this snake oil pitch only works when everyone does it so no one notices it’s detrimental effects?
Studies show AI coding tools make the task slower. It only makes people feel they're faster, but reality is different. So it's the snake oil pitch. Nobody can know it doesn't really work and they keep throwing money at it in an increasingly more desperate "fake it till you make it". Because, if this thing implodes, it'll take a large part of the market and economy with it to do a rerun of the 2008 financial crisis.
Move to Codeberg (esp. if you're European) - but please don't forget to donate something as well. If we don't pay for actual freedom, we won't be able to keep it.
Expectation: High quality code done quickly by AI.
Reality: Low quality AI generated bug reports being spammed in the hopes the spammers can get bug bounty for fixing them, with AI of course.
Already done. I moved everything to Codeberg a year or two ago. I strongly recommend it to anyone looking for safe, non-corporate, community-oriented version control. It’s also German and non-profit.
GitHub is being pushy? Fucking GitHub?
Should we tell him git doesn’t actually need GitHub? That it existed just fine before it and will continue to exist after it?
Ima tell him…
Funny thing to say after using their code to train the shitty-ass AI. Developers don't need AI, but AI certainly needs developers.
AI can only deliver answers based on training code developers manually wrote, so hod do they expect to train AI in the future if there is no more developers writing code by themselves? You train AI on AI-generated code? Sounds like expected enshittification down the line. Inbreeding basically.
Also, small fact is that they invested so much money into AI, that they can't allow it to fail. Such comments never came from people who don't depend on AI adoption.
"Managing agents to achieve outcomes may sound unfulfilling to many"
No shit, man.
such an easy choice ......
(edit: I followed up and got out. This too is now self-hosted and codeberg when needed)
And now we understand why MSFT buying github a some years back was a really big deal actually, and not just some kind of mostly neutral, generic expansionary business move.
Contradictory to the title, this message is not to the developers, developers don't care what github ceo thinks, and they should know it. This might be for the management of other companies to allow using ai or force ai usage.
While I don’t wish for this future, I do look forward to being one of the few that truly understands the ‘old way’ of computing like many here on Lemmy. All that knowledge I spent my youth acquiring may very well become insanely valuable in the next few decades because so many people will treat it as irrelevant.
I’ll feel a lot like this:
does "embracing AI" means replacing all these execs with it? or is it "too far"?
real messages: embrace AI, because i still need to grift from investor's money, because AI is just a hype"
Is his message: “let us scrape your code or go away, and we gonna scrape it anyway” note: scrape = steal
It's funny how so many people make big businesses and think they are the GOAT when in reality the true GOAT is Linus Torvalds.
The Github CEO didn't even "make" the big business. He was appointed by Microsoft after they purchased it and their first pick for CEO of Github resigned after 2 years.
I don’t trust Copilot to make basic suggestions, let alone edits, on an html file.
Message to Github CEO: your job is one thing AI is best at.
Can this guy really be considered a CEO if GitHub is a fully owned subsidiary of Microsoft?
You know Microsoft, the company that is heavily invested in OpenAI and is spending hundreds of billions to try to make AI happen?
Sounds like a desperate tactic to show value to investors who are skeptical of all the insane level of cap ex... not to mention all the customers who don't want to pay for this garbage
Would AI be better CEO's? They would cost a lot less and probably make better decisions. Just saying.
I asked an AI to generate me some code yesterday. A simple interface to a REST API with about 6 endpoints.
And the code it made almost worked. A few fixes here and there to methods it pulled out of it's arse, but were close enough to real ones to be an easy fix.
But the REST API it made code for wasn't the one I gave it. Bore no resemblance to it in fact.
People need to realise that MS isn't forcing it's devs to write all code with AI because they want better code. It's because they desperately need training data so they can sell their slop generators to gullible CEOs.
Moved from github to gitlab when it was acquired by Microsoft. Moved from gitlab to codeberg last month because I don't need a behemoth with dozens of services I never use to store my 3 shitty code files.
If those are my two options...start looking for my projects on Codeberg I guess.
