Okay, okay. Hear me out. I don't know what exactly you mean by "death to [country]". If you mean that the government should change, if necessary by force I would at last kind of agree since I also really dislike and disagree with the governments of these countries and they do seem pretty hostile. BUT it sounds more kill every person in that country. And I would very strongly disagree with that. There are terrible people in every country and there are also nice people in every county. And if for example every Republican voter in the US was a racist and rapist that would not justify killing the other ~60% of the country. At least how you put it in this meme just spreads hate. We the people should focus on improving the world and working together, maybe hating our governments but definitely not hating each other because of our governments. In the end, that is exactly their goal. If we focus on hating each other, we will not peruse the more important goals.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 14 hours ago

Taking this seriously is pretty silly.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago

Saying "death to x country" is just a shorthand for total opposition to that state, its ruling class that controls the state, and those who would uphold that state. It isn't a call for genocide.

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if we wanted to say "death to all americans" we would be saying "death to all americans", "death to America" means death to America

[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Liberals: Orange man bad! Hes got to go!

Ali Khamenei: Death to America means death to Trump and Bolton. We have nothing against the American people.

Liberals: WHY ARE THE MUSLIMS SO HATEFUL??

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 7 points 21 hours ago

it's because they see as us idiot cavemen who can't speak properly, the same as the critisism for Ansarallah's banner, they say in it death to America and death to Israel, if they wanted to say "death to Jews" they wouldn't have used a word other than death.

[+] andrewta@lemmy.world -14 points 1 day ago (6 children)

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

The US falling is going to absolutely be a net positive for the global south, who is looted and plundered every minute and every day by imperialism. A world without the US empire is one that can actually build itself up.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

literally every country stands to benefit from the downfall of the US, except itself, israel and maybe canada

[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

The truth seems to be quite contentious here on lemmy lol 😆

[–] forestry@lemmy.ml -4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

well that's massively simplifying it. I don't see China being any better

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why not? The US runs on imperialism, the only reason why its economy "works" is because it uses its vast financial capital to subjugate and plunder the global south, and bombs, sanctions, coups, invades, etc any country that tries to go against that. The PRC doesn't function that way, and is a big part of development in the global south.

[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Cowbee 🫡

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

🫡

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 day ago

Picture of Joe Biden with an empty speech bubble, implying Biden is saying the text above.

[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

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I think you forgot a few on your list.

(I would add Syria but I refuse to use the al qaeda flag)

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Just wait till you find out who designed the Palestine and Lebanon flags. And all the other Red black green white ones.

[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The British and French.

[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 1 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

I always heard that Sharif Hussein designed the Palestinian flag.

Do you have source for this?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 minutes ago

Sharif Hussein led the Western backed "Arab revolt". From yours truly, Syces-Picot and T.E Lawrence "of Arabia." The reason the Middle East is in shambles is because of the divide and conquer balkanization Sykes-Picot made possible. Sharif Hussein was a British agent doing nothing more than their bidding.

Palestinians are flying the flag of the revolt which brought them the Balfour declaration. In which the British gave Palestine to the Israelis. It's comically ironic. Though most of them probably don't know this and it's not really worth it criticizing it.

Almost all of Middle Eastern countries after the fall of the Ottoman Empire have a red-white-green-black flag. And they were colonized by the British. It's pretty obvious which colors they're flying.

[–] idriss@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

2013 poll about biggest threat to world peace. US won by a majority.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

lol good point my friend. good point

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m not in those countries, and my country depends on US protection, but I want them to crash land on their face.

Germany has been Europe’s most successful nation on a lot of levels. Having a near death experience and a properly guided rebirth can be a good thing.

The outer values of USA are very admirable, but they were taken over by hostile foreign powers that over decades slowly corrupted courts and the two parties, and now most people are noticing the part of the iceberg above the water.

The US has been self dismantling at least since Bush-9/11 but you could make the case that the JFK assassination was the real moment “the deep state” took over and the President became a puppet for the Military Industrial Complex.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US was founded on slavery and genocide, and to this day is the world's largest Empire and settler-colony. The US wasn't "taken over" in the last 2 decades, it has consistently either been the most evil country in the world, or one of the most evil countries. The "outer values" are just aesthetics sold to keep the brutal system going.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world -4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Well that’s the glass half full version. The slavery and genocide is not a monopoly of the USA though. At some point every major power in existence dabbled their feet into that. I mean it’s happening today. The reality is that lots of people inside and outside the US believe those aesthetics, and that’s a powerful thing to leverage when rebuilding a nation.

The New Nuremberg trials will be able to dispense with the evil for hopefully a few generations, until it inevitably will come back.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The US Empire is the world hegemon. It is the country most responsible for current global plunder and genocide. It is still a settler-colony. The aesthetics don't matter, what matters is that it's an empire and runs on imperialism, and the way beyond it is a destruction of the empire itself and a new socialist state in its place.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

No need to argue or downvote brother, we are saying the same thing. I’m just saying your socialist state will be more easily digested if it is presented as a continuation of the “dream”.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Not really, actually. Patriotic Socialism is just a way to justify imperialism, it's a far-right ideology.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I think you just want to win arguments of theoretical concepts.

We both want the USA to self implode. That’s the common ground I’ll remember from this little interaction.

Imperialism never needed justification. It’s imperial. Let me know if you need a hand climbing out of your rabbit hole.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

There are genuine PatSoc groups like the MAGACommunists. The idea is to twist leftism into something that retains the US Empire, and a lot of it stems from trying to uplift "American values."