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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I don't use A.I. because I've had nothing but negative interactions with A.I. Customer service bots that fail to give adequate responses, unhelpful and incorrect search result summaries, and, "art," that looks like shit hasn't made me want to sign up for ChatGPT or Gemini. For most people, this isn't a moral stance, it's just that the product isn't worth paying for. Stop framing people that don't use A.I. as luddites with an ax to grind just because tech bros spent billions on a product that isn't good yet.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 40 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I try not to use AI at all. I am not missing out on anything.

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I also try, but it is invoked on my behalf. For instance, at work if I make a pull request now multiple AI bots are summoned to give an analysis of my code changes. It's extremely verbose and annoying, and I think basically nobody reads it because all it does is just spam the comments section with way too much text.

I vehemently hate OpenAI, ChatGPT, et al. At least it's funny when it summarizes my changes as significant improvements that improve code maintainability. I guess getting glazed by the bot in a way my manager can see is helpful to my career? Though honestly he probably also doesn't read that shit. So glad all this energy is wasted for nothing.

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[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the dumbest shit I've ever read. Refusing to submit to corpo ratfuckery isn't a lifestyle choice. It's common sense.

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I applaud folks like this - they make a choice and stick with it. No "I'll never use AI to generate art but I vibe code to save time" hypocrisy. No "I use it to help me with maths, but I'd never use it to steal artistic work".

Just straight up "it is an environmental hazard, it is unethical, not engaging". Should be called "AI Ethicists" rather than "AI Vegans".

[–] Womble@piefed.world 21 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Yeah, I too hate those hypcrites who complain about the massive environmental impact of AI, then drive a 10 mile round trip to buy a burger made from a cow raised on soy.

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[–] zeca@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Im also a gun vegan, a car vegan, a facebook vegan, an exercise vegan (unfortunately), a windows vegan, ... just not actual vegan.

I feel like thats a bad way to use the word vegan.

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[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

Shitty click baity title

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't use it because I have no trust in it.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Sounds like you are not eating enough small rocks a day. You should eat 1 small rock a day.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We let environmentalism become an individual issue, and that was a mistake. Can we not do this for AI? It's a society-wide problem, not something you can solve by measuring your own personal AI footprint.

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[–] BearGun@ttrpg.network 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No, I didn’t make it up. Although I rather wish I did, because it’s quite catchy, isn’t it?

No, it isn't, it's fucking stupid. The author was kind enough to link the source of that shitty idea, and the AI/vegan parallels are, per said article: ethical, environmental and wellness concerns.

Gee wiz, I sure never saw people with those 3 concerns in regards to anything other than veganism!!!

/s

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[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 26 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Nothing wrong with being a Luddite

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

It was always about worker's rights anyways:

Malcolm L. Thomas argued in his 1970 history The Luddites that machine-breaking was one of the very few tactics that workers could use to increase pressure on employers, undermine lower-paid competing workers, and create solidarity among workers. "These attacks on machines did not imply any necessary hostility to machinery as such; machinery was just a conveniently exposed target against which an attack could be made."[10] Historian Eric Hobsbawm has called their machine wrecking "collective bargaining by riot", which had been a tactic used in Britain since the Restoration because manufactories were scattered throughout the country, and that made it impractical to hold large-scale strikes.[13][14] An agricultural variant of Luddism occurred during the widespread Swing Riots of 1830 in southern and eastern England, centring on breaking threshing machines.[15]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

It was about making sure that as mechanization resulted in a lower need for labor, that workers compensation remained steady, and they worked less hours.

People hating luddites is just the result of centuries old propaganda from the wealthy

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[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

So I'm not the only one who refuses ro touch it?

Around me and everywhere it's getting insane that it feels like there's literally no one who hasn't used it or use regularly for all kinds of shit.

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[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We don't need to invent new terms, like 'AI Vegan', when we have a perfectly good term already: Butlerian Jihadist.

[–] medem@lemmy.wtf 24 points 1 week ago

'AI vegan'....

Where I come from, saying something that stupid will get you killed.

[–] udon@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"refuse" lol as if there were a general requirement to use this shit

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[–] CarrmynCarnage@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If anyone says the words "AI Vegan" to my face, I'm throwing shit.

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[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"AI vegans"? I knew guardian was already bought by tech bros, but wtf is that phrasing lmao I dont use AI either, simply because it is wrong more often than not and I am still capable of googling myself, but being cautious equals to being vegan in tech bro eyes?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Aigen or Aibstenant something for a term. Vegan is not right.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

I just don’t have a use for it. I already am generative AI.

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[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

Come on Guardian... why frame it like that? Folks using AI should be called out as strange.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The better term would be "LLM gobbling fuckheads" for those who use that stuff and believe it has anything to do with "AI"

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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago (21 children)

I don’t use ai either. But because it’s fuckin stupid. It’s not even ai. It’s a glorified sorting algorithm.

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Reading this thread, I wonder if the term is intended to divide a largely environmentalist opposition.

Makes "nocoiner" seem tame by comparison.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

There it is. The stupidest headline I've read all week.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (15 children)

The irony of environmental activists using the word "veganism" while not being vegan 😒 (being vegan is one of the most significant reduction to greenhouse emissions that is within your personal choice)

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