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[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Knowing Athens artists, the envoy just fanned the flames big time. The city's world famous for its protest graffiti and is absolutely covered in it. It's part of the charm.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

They've had a lot of protest dogs over the years too

[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Let me give you some perspective here.

First of all I wanna say I agree with the guy.

He's trying to run for leader of Greece's PASOK party, projected to be second in polls right now.

He is however not in the party currently running the government, which has been elected with the widest victory in recent decades. The ruling party stands firm on the side of Israel and will beg forgiveness for the mayor's statement, strongly condemning it.

The people, however, are with Gaza.

So the Greek government is mostly pro-Israel, despite this guy making strong statements and his party backing him up, it's mostly to posture against the current ruling party to gain in polls and for the mayor to gain more support in his bid to become the second party's leader.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

To be clear, it's the majority party that's pro-Israel, while the PASOK party (Haris Doukas, the guy in the picture's party) is highly critical of Israel. So, this aligns with the stance of his party, in spite of the Greek government's stance. The way you worded it makes it sound like he's just trying to score points, but he and his party are genuinely pro-Palestine.

[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I do believe that PASOK's tone would be different if they were currently the ruling party, because they'd have more to lose, and that ND, the current ruling party, would be more critical of Israel to gain points. However, this guy seems genuine enough from what I read, and by that I mean ND aligned media scolded him heavily for what he said, so he must be doing something right to piss them off.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How tf you gonna argue democratic values with him? They invented em

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 10 points 2 months ago

For rich slave owners, who had the time to dabble in politics...

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Sort of? I would argue what most think of now when they think if democracies are largely a French creation.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Are the graffiti in question actually antisemitic or just critical of the Israeli genocide?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Think it matters to the Israelis? Any criticism is antisemitic by their definition.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It matters to us.

I'm not going to justify swastikas and "heil hitlers" just because it is critical of Israel.

What did the graffiti say?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Given the source of the complaint, by default that claim about that graffiti deserves the same presumption and level of concern as would one which a member of the Nazi Party claimed to be against the Arian Race - one should assume it's self-serving propagandist bullshit from a Genocidal Racial Supremacist until proven otherwise.

[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Plenty of grafity all over Greece I've seen lately with phrases like "all IDF soldiers are murderers" and "Zionists not welcome" and "Israel is a terrorist state" etc. I and basically all Greeks agree with those. I suspect the butthurt reaction from the Israeli envoy will only increase sales of spray paint in Athens

[–] Praxinoscope@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I recently traveled to Greece and did see some anti-zionist, not antisemitic, graffiti.

There was also a lot of fascist and Nazi related graffiti.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Was the nazi related graffiti pro or anti-fascist?

[–] Praxinoscope@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

Pro-fascist. I saw a bunch of things like SS runes, Celtic crosses, etc.

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago
[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Makes me want to start planning another vacation in Greece. Fewer Zionazis to avoid .

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Fuck israel

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Look out for your democracy, Athens, because this guy has King energy.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Death, death to the IDF!