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I dusted off my RPI4 and started tinkering with self-hosting things and it's sparked a fire. Suddenly I have 7 docker containers running and I need more RAM, more space and I want something reliable with room to grow. I like small form factors but it doesn't need to be RPI small. Any recs for your favorite hardware under $500?

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[–] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Intel NUC. Myself I prefer Proxmox as the first layer (so I can do stuff remotelly), and Alpine Linux VM as a second layer.

This been rock stable for me for the past 1 year or so.

[–] xebix@lemmy.srv0.lol 1 points 2 years ago

This is pretty much exactly what I do. I'm partial to Debian though.

[–] OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I have a couple of Intel NUCs and they are great, one is the first generation NUC with the Celeron and runs Home Assistant without problems.

At the moment I am eyeing the new N100 CPUs they are pretty powerful compared to the previous generation. Asrock and Asus are bringing out motherboards with the CPU soldered and they are also fanless. The Asrock is nicer because you don't need a real PSU for it and it has an extra SATA port. They are not yet available.

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/N100DC-ITX/index.asp

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-n100i-d-d4/

Planning on making an unRaid miniPC

[–] shroomato@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

+1 for a NUC. There's plenty of second hand ones on Ebay which can be had at around $100. The nice thing is that they have ultra low voltage CPUs so the power bill is not a concern with running 24/7.

[–] OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The new N100 is also a 6W processor.

[–] SteelCorrelation@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Definitely a NUC or similar mini PC from the likes of Geekom, Beelink, or Minisforum. My whole homelab was mini PCs until I consolidated to a NUC 12 Pro as I build up my rack. Slap Proxmox on the machine, build some VMs and LXCs, and have at it.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Or HP/Dell units second hand. Tons of companies ditch those computers after two o three years and they're still perfectly good for self hosting with Linux. We can also find really good deals on Intel 9th gen machines for around 35% of the price of all those you suggested brand new.

[–] Double_A@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of those business Thin Clients for ~150$. They are pretty much a full fledged PC that run everything you throw at it, but tiny. The only problem with mine is that the fan is a bit loud on idle.

[–] vgnmnky@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is what I did, though I got hold of a Dell Wyse 5070, which is fanless. Saying that, I'm working on moving to a more powerful NUC (in an Akasa fanless case).

[–] rylo@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago

You can get some decent enterprise hardware for fairly cheap on places like amazon. I got a dell R710 for around $800 a couple of years back. The equipment tends to be a little scuffed up and older in terms of hardware, but they still offer plently of performance IMO. The one I have has a 6 drive RAID with 1.5TB disks, dual 6-core processors, and 128GB of ram. Only downside I would say is they tend to use quite a bit of power (around 207W from what I've measured).

[–] eosph@lemmy.remotelab.uk 2 points 2 years ago

At the moment hardware is just expensive. I ended up with a NUC with 32gb of ram in order to future proof myself while I wait for hardware to become cheaper. Other than another stick of ram I can't see me needing to update any time soon.

[–] terribleplan@lemmy.nrd.li 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have some (refurbished) HP mini PCs that are pretty decent, you can probably find similar things well within that range. You could also consider an off-lease/used server in that price range, but will have to do some hunting to find something you like. Also, servers can be a bit loud and power hungry (the efficiency of the compute is lower than e.g. a mini PC or a Pi, but it will have way more compute. Servers with something like dual hex core CPUs and 64+ GB of RAM are not uncommon).

I run both mini PCs and server hardware, using the server hardware mainly for storage or services that need quite high availability (auth, reverse proxy, password vault) and the mini PCs for most everything else (minecraft servers, wiki, jellyfin, etc)

[–] avapa@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

HP EliteDesk 800 G3 go for about 110€ on eBay in my area so they should have similar pricing in the US. Bought three of them and upgraded each one to 32GB of RAM and 1TB of NVME storage. They’re near silent and draw very little power which is perfect for me. I’ve set them up as a Proxmox cluster to host a bunch of VMs for messing around. I wouldn’t recommend them for applications that do video encoding though. Plex for example can bring one of these machines to its knees when you’re dealing with very large 4K Blu-ray rips like I am. In that case I usually just run Plex on my desktop when I need to.

[–] RxBrad@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

HP EliteDesk 800 G3

Yep. I use one of these for all of my homelab stuff. The i5 7500 does everything I need it to do, including h265 QuickSync transcoding for Plex & tDarr.

[–] Double_A@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Do you have the Mini one or the regular one? Because the fan in my Mini is kinda annoying even on low speeds. Now I wonder if it's normal or if it's broken somehow.

[–] Fermiverse@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I just built a Server using J5040 board. With 16gb ram (yes it works) a 500gb m.2 as system , 2x4tb ironwolf, all in the node 304 fractal case for 550 euro.

Will run proxmox as first layer.

Im using refurbished thinkpads (x220-203) but i've seen a lot of homelabs using Nuc pc

[–] roger_fediverse@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Keeping storage and compute separately is the best practice but if you're OK with combining both in one device then running docker-compose on a Synology (via SSH, + versions only) works just fine. An alternative that reduces the lock-in at the expense of more tinkering is buying an amd64 QNAP and installing Openmediavault / TrueNAS / plain Debian.

[–] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am still quite happy with my old Sun Fire X2270 M2 with Dual Xeon X5675. Not new, but its 12 physical cores, 88 GB RAM and 4 hotswap SATA drive bays in a 1U rack unit make it quite a decent machine for running a couple of VMs.

I also like my Dell T320 Rackable Tower server. It has room for 8 hotswap 3.5" SAS drives (or 16 2.5"), redundant power supply, and you should be able to get it for under $300. With a Xeon E5-1428L V2, mine is still quite capable and uses between 140 and 160 W (with 8 disks).

[–] betternotbigger@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Wow, that's a ton of computing power for the money.

[–] Rik@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I like synology NAS units with Intel chips for hosting docker containers, alongside lots of network storage. They aren't the cheapest solution but they are robust devices and i have had basically no problems since setting mine up in 2019.

Of course you can get a used dell server blade for a lot less which will be more powerful but it doesnt meet your small form factor requirement.

[–] mazkarth@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I use a Dell Micro with Ubuntu for docker containers mounted to a wall with a Synology NAS 4 bay for storage. I used to have a small form factor with a 12bay SAS array attached but the power consumption was ridiculous.

[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 1 points 2 years ago

I used to run a Dell R710, but that got expensive with the electricity prices shooting up. So I moved to a standard consumer hardware PC in a rack mount case. Ryzen 5 5600, 64GB RAM, 500GB NVME, SSD boot disk, 6x 3.5" disks for storage. It uses half the power and is a fair bit quicker than the old dell with dual X5670 Xeons. One day I'll move to just 2x larger disks instead of 6, but that's expensive at the moment.

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