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Edison motors hybrid trucks are dead (for now) due to Canadian emissions regulations (www.youtube.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by artyom@piefed.social to c/electricvehicles@slrpnk.net

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[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al -1 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The issue stems from the inability to get a specific generator engine certified for "on-highway" use. The company says it is now being forced to build conventional diesel trucks to raise the funds needed to certify their hybrid technology themselves, which several news reports and political letters have confirmed these claims.

Basically the title is overreacting. That said, fuck hybrids.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not to be that guy, but Edison's system isn't a traditional hybrid. It's all electric drive with it's own diesel generator charging system onboard. The diesel generator is not necessary for the truck's operation.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't apologise for adding context or sharing insight. It's always appreciated. That's what makes a community good.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The other cool thing was that they had a battery management system failure and after a computer update they are now able to continue running on generator electricity only like diesel electric locomotives. If I were their lawyer, I'd explore classifying their generator system as a chemical mechanical battery (so long that it gets them out of having to verify their system as clean/safe for on highway use. I'd also argue that any approved engine with an alternator is technically a generator as well.

I always thought my state and US govt was overly bureaucratic, but Canada is quickly moving up near the top of the list just following their saga. No wonder I see Alberta independence news stories if this is the sort of nonsense that they have to put up with in new or day to day operations of business.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

I think generator driven, grid chargeable electric vehicles are a great stop gap until battery tech improves and grid generation gets cleaner.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why the hate? It's a useful transitional technology for places that still lack the infrastructure. Trucks in Canada are a perfect application.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Both can be true. They can be a useful or even necessary transitional technology and also a lifeline to a resource that the world would be a better place in the absence of.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What's the alternative? Demand perfection and remain in the status quo because there's no path to achieve it?

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The alternative is to go all in on electric trucks. I'm not saying they should. Just because I am of the opinion fuck hybrids, doesn't mean they're not beyond being useful. Full diesel on the other hand, I think we're beyond those.

[–] Egonallanon@feddit.uk 4 points 2 weeks ago

The real alternative is to go all in on trains as electric trucks. Rubber on tarmac friction is so high that driving electric trucks long distance is super inefficient and giving them the batteries to match the ranges done by diesel trucks eats too much into cargo capacity to make them really worth it.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

BTW, not unable to certify, unable to reuse the stationary motor certification as a highway motor certification. They said this would require that they certify the motor for highway emissions, which is expensive and they don't want to do.

"Our lack of regulatory foresight is hurting our business model", in a nutshell.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

How is that overreacting?

These trucks operate in extremely remote areas where no semblance of a charging station exists.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was referring to

CANADIAN GOVERMENT BANS HYBRIDS