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Supriya Dwivedi, who worked as a senior adviser to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, found the decision mystifying.

“It’s honestly mind-boggling why any Liberal government would invite a key figure involved in the horror show that is Project 2025,” Dwivedi told The Tyee over text.

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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 28 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

and even worse Carney has invited Thiel as well.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

He fucking WHAT

sorry to do this but do you have a source on that?

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Update:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/kevin-roberts-project-2025-carney-1.7624327

Edit: I don’t even think cbc would say his name I am in a rush family clamoring for food. Will try to find original post.

Edit: Gone can no longer find the article. Will keep trying but I did find this.

“Peter Thiel has been associated with Canada as an investor and board member for Vancouver-based antibody therapy developer AbCellera“

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yeah I'd definitely wondered who the AI-focused VC firm was when I read that article yesterday, but I still haven't seen a name anywhere.

I mean no matter who it is, it's still ludicrous that they're inviting a VC firm doing AI gambles and not, say, union leaders or civil society groups.

Brookfield, incidentally, has tens of billions invested in AI stuff and recently extended a $750 million line of credit to a Thiel-backed AI data center company: https://blundervalley.ca/blog/crusoe-thiel-brookfield/

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 4 weeks ago

I mean no matter who it is, it’s still ludicrous that they’re inviting a VC firm doing AI gambles and not, say, union leaders or civil society groups.

Glad, that I wasn’t the only one who picked up on that. It’s all about what’s good for the corpos.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Can’t find the original article and I am good at scouring. Guess they wanted it gone?

[–] leastaction@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you tried the Internet Archive?

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

At this point I am almost doubting myself. I know I saw the article and read it. It is now nowhere at archive is nor at least 10 search engines. Gone, vamoose, no longer of this earth, shuffled off its mortal coil, pining for the fjords.

Only 2 different articles a day later saying that a “project 2025 mastermind” will no longer be coming. No names which in itself is to me rather sus.

So weird.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, if you did simply misremember, I can tell you I've definitely done that before!

Whether or not Carney invited Thiel, though, the two of them are definitely not strangers. The two are among a small number of Bilderberg participants who attended every single year over the last decade or so, for starters. (Except for 2020 & 2021 when the meetings were cancelled due to the pandemic)

Then there's the president of Palantir Canada, David MacNaughton, who sits on the PM's Council for Canada-US Relations. Wow, small world, right?

If Carney really did invite Thiel, the shocking bit is mostly that they'd be so open about how connected they are tbh!

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

I am pushing 70 could have been a senior moment.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 20 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I didn't vote for him but I repeatedly try to assure myself that he probably knows what he's doing and that he has a plan, but he keeps moving closer and closer to full-on appeasement of Trump and I'm trying not to lose my mind

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

Bankbro is doing bankbro shit.

I don't know how many times liberals need to pull the same trick before people stop being surprised.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Of course he has a plan, but if you're a working-class Canadian, helping you isn't the plan

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

No one in Canada votes directly for the Prime Minister, you vote for your MPP. People in my area voted for a conservative MPP.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, my* vote has never counted outside of a statistical curiosity. This shit hole votes blue no matter who my entire life.

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

I meant for all of Canada. But that is depressing.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know that but I feel like that's a bit pedantic. I voted for Joel Harden, the NDP candidate for Ottawa Centre

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know the name. But I alsk voted for a NDP MPP. We need to tax the ultra rich more.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I would like to talk about my "killing them all and letting God sort it out" policy for international relations. I look forward to my invitation to present my alternative opinion to the Liberal caucus since they're so open minded and interested in diversity.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago

Hmm, this is a fascinating and nuanced part of the political spectrum you're representing, lemme just look up when the nominations for the Order of Canada are happening, and I'll pass your name along to the PMO 👍

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Curled up in the corner of an empty room, clutching knees, crying, and rocking; “at least we stopped Poilievre“.

Yes, things could have been worse, but why can’t they ever just be good? Don’t we deserve that from time to time?

[–] leastaction@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

If they really wanted to get some insights into how the American right thinks there are other ways to do it (and it's not hard, given that the American right has no problem in telling us exactly how they think). They certainly should not invite the guy to a closed-doors meeting with the cabinet, that we only find out about when he announces that he can't attend. The first infuriating thing about this is that they invite him in the first place. The second is that they try to keep it secret from Canadians. Betrayal is perhaps too strong a word, but not by much.

[–] nul42@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Carney's got elbows up but also ass up and face down.

Face down, ass up. That's the way we like to "lead"

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 weeks ago

This sounds like it involves rope, or handcuffs maybe

[–] demerara@social.vivaldi.net -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

@patatas
Stay close to your friends, and closer to your enemies.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 weeks ago

The article addresses, and counters, this argument pretty well tbh.

Besides, what has Carney actually done to make people think he's not this dude's friend?

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca -5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Whatever, dudes.

It would be helpful to talk to someone like Dr. 2025 to try to understand what's going on in the minds of the Murcan oligarchs. Having the meeting in the open would have been much better than behind closed doors, where it's now found to be held.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe they shouldn't have the meeting at all? Ever consider that Roberts might learn more about what Carney & cabinet are thinking, than our government would learn from him?

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're meeting anyway. It would be nice if we had some transparency.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This was a closed-door cabinet meeting, what kind of transparency is that?

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's more transparent than meeting in secret. Which they're now absolutely going to do. Dr. 2025 backed out of this meeting because he likely didn't like some of the attendees. Now we don't get to know who he'll be meeting with or any outcomes.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So you're saying our government is lying to us about its motives and meetings?

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hiding truth, sometimes outright lying, sure. Our number one priority should be electoral reform so we don't end up as one more dictatorship.