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[–] bookmeat@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Just a reminder that unsustainable world population growth is bad. Fewer people is good for everyone and our planet.

[–] lud@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And this is why the retirement ages have to be raised in many countries.

People live longer and fewer young to take care of the old (and the economy in general)

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[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Europe has proven we can't fix this by importing millions of unskilled people with radically different values. The social unrest is proving catastrophic. Rightwing parties are gaining traction in almost every European country. The EU is on track to accept more than a million applications this year alone, and most of them have large families which will be granted reunification. Data shows most of them will never work a day in their lives. Our social systems will collapse within a decade at this rate. We'll be lucky if the EU itself survives this.

Instead, we really need to alleviate the issues resulting in young people not having kids. The usual argument is, "it's too expensive." While true, data shows that income isn't a barrier to fertility. In fact, higher income results in lower fertility, with some exceptions at the very top end of the income spectrum.

[–] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm in the UK and the handful of asylum seekers I've met who are unemployed, have significant trauma and or disability and shouldn't be working as they are barely coping as it is.
If we can support citizens with these conditions on unemployment, it's nothing but racism to deny this support to people here under asylum.

And unless some kind of supernatural magic occurs that stops capitalism, climate collapse, resource depletion, and all the genocidal authoritarianist politics humans seem to be so naturally predisposed to, birthrates should continue to fall. Adding to our numbers is nothing short of insanity at this point.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We appear to agree about the situation as it is. However you are arguing you wish to make it worse. I, and most Europeans, do not.

[–] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because supporting people makes things worse? Wtf has to be wrong with you to consider providing basic resources to struggling people, a bad thing?

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Because supporting people makes things worse?

No. Reducing the capacity of already strained social services makes them worse. WTF is wrong with you that you want to remove social services from struggling people??

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