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That's just stupid. I agree that some names refer to exclusively meat products should keep their exclusivity but others don't, if a burger should be made of beef then a chicken burger shouldn't be allowed, with sausages, most of the time it tells you what animal it's in there. If we're already specifying what meat's in there we can also say what's the main vegetable.
I haven't read this new law but all these articles I'm seeing today are rage bait.
Just the name, not the product. Now personally, I think that veggie burger is more than clear enough to make consumers aware of what they're buying, but it's hardly the end of the world.
Betteridge's law of headlines says the answer is "no"...and the answer is indeed, no.
They will however prevent the use of the word "burger" for a non meat product. It will instead have to be a "vege patty" or the equivalent in other languages.
The driver is supposedly truth in labelling - which is indeed a core value of the EU (food quality and provenance), but it's probably also a but of assistance to meat producers.
Given the vast majority of commercial vegetarian products of this type are highly processed and produced by American multi-nationals I'm not sure it's a bad thing. The majority of those arguing that a vegetarian diet is easier on the planet are comparing whole vegetables sourced locally with meat (and in several studies putting a finger on the scale by comparing imported meat to the whole vege to maximise the food miles).
Vege patties produced in a factory in the USA are unlikely to be significantly less impact than a sheep or cow raised a few kilometres away, highly processed foods (vege or carnivorous) with all their additives are very questionable as to how healthy they are as well.