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Chat Control didnt pass - they didnt even vote because they were afraid the result would be embarassing.

And we got told so many times, that EU now wants Chat Control. But it was a big fat lie.

EU is a democracy with different opinions, and when a small group of facists tries to read your chats, it does not represent the EU opinion.

But the whole media got you thinking so. Proving even on Lemmy, you and me are extremly prone to propaganda.

I quoted the article here with the news:

In a major breakthrough for the digital rights movement, the German government has refused to back the EU’s controversial Chat Control regulation yesterday after facing massive public pressure.

The government did not take a position on the proposal.

This blocks the required majority in the EU Council, derailing the plan to pass the surveillance law next week.

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[–] Snickeboa@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

As a swede, I’m so embarrassed that my country supports this shit.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

People here are very groupthink.

When Tesla was at like 250 in the stock market just six months ago, I said that the stock will recover very soon. But the groupthink here was totally agreeing with eachother that Tesla is gone forever, and people kept posting Elon doing nazi gestures and saying they are done.

Now, the stock is over 400. But no posts is made about that and how maybe the groupthink was completely wrong. Instead the next thing is ongoing.

We have evidence around us all the time how the group is completely wrong in their assumptions. Majority opinion is not right by default.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this some sort of misguided patriotism? I don’t see what the propaganda we are supposedly falling for is. Is it not as equally accurate to say that public opinion and outcry led to it not coming to a vote? I think keeping that public outcry is important to defeat future attempts to undermine rights. Don’t think it can’t happen in the EU. It’s happening if the US

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I'm talking about all the opinions already made up, that EU wanted to take away encryption and give us chat control.

They didnt want that.

It's like saying Denmark wants to throw out all immigrants, just because a small minority is proposing it. They dont.

Democracy is just great for media outlets, because they can bandwagon stupid proposals.

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Can't someone pick the shitty parts of this proposal and push it to a vote, so it can be struck down already?

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh no lemmy is a reactionary craphole that despises nuanced discussion? Well atleast it's a place to call people facists.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus -2 points 1 week ago

the fuck kind of dumbass bullshit tankie take is this?

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