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[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

$11

As it should be

No it's not, all necessary healthcare should be free at the point of use. As should be basic housing and food.

To me it sounds insane that you have to pay for insulin, which you must have in order to survive. If anything, I would think that $11 per pen is still at or above the cost price for the manufacturer, insulin is dirt cheap to make once you have the production line.

All that said, this is of course a step in the right direction. I won't be surprised if there's a wave of media attacks on him a month from now, all suspiciously linked to some shady ad firm with ties to big pharma.

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Imagine having to pay for healthcare
*European man (women have to pay, because, well, patriarchy and stuff)

[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 173 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (27 children)

Controversial take (though maybe not in this community):

If it's needed for survival, it should be free. No exceptions.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 118 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would much prefer my taxes go toward making insulin to give away than bombs to give away.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd even, gasp, go so far as to say I'd happily give it away to citizens and illegal immigrants alike. Oh hell, everyone on the planet. No strings attached.

This is where my taxes should go. I can't stand the rhetoric that it's bad tax payers are footing the bill for those without insurance and those here illegally. That's what a society is supposed to do.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (7 children)

In fact, before this admin, we gave many medicines all over the world to developing nations.

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[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Devil's advocate: Medi-CAL (California's Medicaid program, already known for being very permissive) will likely already cover it for the eligible, and should the $11 be used in aggregate to cover distribution and manufacturing for all of California's citizens, it would be a reasonable rate to keep the program self-sustaining.

Allotting an exception for the payment for those who may have difficulty seems like a reasonable way to cover any gaps while making sure it never runs into the red.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well America voted against food being considered essential for survival...

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[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 131 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No need to stop at insulin.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 141 points 1 week ago (53 children)
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[–] florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 84 points 1 week ago (7 children)

We’ll see how many red-staters cross state lines to buy their evil, demonic $11 insulin.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Watch them take advantage of this while acting like “California is the worst state”

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (4 children)

As a Newsom hater, I have to admit this is a big win for everyone. While he's still very far from an actual solution to the country's root problems - you can vote for him (if that's an option), and then continue protesting and pushing for more reforms. I'm not quite as optimistic to believe this will happen, let alone succeed, but it's an idea.

[–] florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Newsom can be shamed into doing the right thing. Trump/Vance/Miller will disappear the shamers. Completely different realities.

The most transphobic version of Newsom is a return to needing several doctors to write a letter saying you are trans. We're already seeing Trump denying the right to exist and forcing the next generation of trans kids into navigating black markets for T shots or forced to grow with the wrong hormones.

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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

$11 per month, that's only about double what it costs in most of the world. Wait... Still $11 PER PEN

Wtf did it cost before!!??

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

As a former pharmacy worker in California, anywhere from $40 to $200, depending on the patient's insurance. There's a reason Eli Lily and other companies monitor the supply truck drivers and call the cops if they stop.

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[–] plz1@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't want to go down the rabbit hole, but I'm wondering is this ia CA paying the difference on what would be price gouging, or CA actually controlling the process, to erase any opportunity for that price gouging. That latter would likely be permanent, the former would last only as long as the administration isn't seeking budget cuts.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

They're partnering with a non-profit 501(c)(3) generic manufacturer that was set up by groups of hospitals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civica_Rx

Seems as legit as you're going to find in the US.

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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 week ago

I fucking loathe Newsome - but this is hard to complain about

[–] spudsrus@aussie.zone 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

For comparison...

In Aus I'm paying ~$32 for 25 pens

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (18 children)

We have it decent in Australia, but for the Americans reading on, the bar is so ridiculously low you can walk over it.

I hope one day Medicare can actually be universal, and not the private subsidy model we have currently.

I dunno about you, but finding bulk billing is a pain the arse now, and in certain areas it simply doesn't exist. Not to mention my premium mouth bones which aren't covered for some stupid reason.

I just wish we'd finally kill off private health. Private health is such a scam we only take out because we have a two tiered system and there's a tax discount.

I really don't like Australians talking about how good we have it, when it's kinda meh, and actively getting worse.

That all being said, yeah, the PBS is pretty good and I'm glad insulin is affordable.

Thank Christ we didn't get the Libs back (for American readers, that's the conservative party), we could do SO much better given how wealthy we are per person.

But, anyone who doesn't want to pay more in tax in order to get truly public healthcare doesn't know how to do maths. We could just pay what we pay in private health premiums already, in tax, and we'd probably get way better care per person (because profit is inherently inefficient).

Abolish private health.

Thanks for being accosted with my rant.

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[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Holy shit, I can't believe this is real

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Hey look! A liberal doing some actual fucking liberalism for once. What a nice change of pace.

[–] miked@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago

Newsom is all over the place. Sometimes his position is straight from the GOP playbook (criminalizing being homeless) and sometimes it is liberal like this. He is trying to be everything while preparing for a '28 presidential run.

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[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

US trying to do a single thing not-for-profit challenge (apparently possible).

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some of the only good government policy I've seen in my lifetime.

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[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Definitely a win! It's important to note what type of insulin this is, insulin glargine (a long acting insulin). For those who are already on Lantus or Toujeo it will definitely be a plus. Hopefully next they'll do short acting insulins (lispro and aspart)

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[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 19 points 1 week ago (25 children)

I really wish Gavin Newsom would stop being transphobic so I could appreciate when he actually does good for people.

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