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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 31 points 6 days ago (4 children)

That advice only makes the situation worse. If you are applying to 100 postings a week, you are almost certainly applying to jobs you aren't qualified for, or don't really want. You're just playing the numbers game.

On the other side of it, HR departments are getting so many applications from unqualified people who are playing the numbers game, that eventually they just cut off the flow of incoming applications, qualified and unqualified alike.

I've often seen my son apply to great jobs that he is absolutely qualified for, and would be great for both himself and the employer, only to get a letter that they have closed applications due to the overwhelming response. If there weren't so many unqualified applicants pumping up their useless personal numbers, maybe he'd make the cut for interviews, where he can shine, and get the job. But he never gets that far because of unqualified resume spammers bogging down HR.

Everybody should do everybody else a favor, and just apply for the jobs that your are qualified, and want to accept.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 22 points 5 days ago

Everybody should do everybody else a favor, and just apply for the jobs that your are qualified, and want to accept.

This is what I do. This is also why I've been unemployed for more than a year.

[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 days ago

I think you're putting too much blame on others rather than the companies themselves. For comp sci, entry level simply doesn't exist anymore. The lowest amount of experience required is about 2 years now. Chances are if you just graduated, there's no real entry level job for you.

The recruiter process is also notoriously bad at any part of the application. I had applications straight up ghosted, responses two years after I applied, responses that they already decided to move with another candidate despite the job listing still open, even a 3 hr interview where I was told I would meet the team (as in personality test), only for it to end up as a 3 hr technical. This was back in 2021 2022, and from what I've heard, it has only gotten worse.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

A huge issue is companies have u realistic expectations for new applicants when in reality the job isn’t even hard. We all know of the trope of asking for a degree with 5 years experience for an entry level position. That routinely happens and companies think they are being smart by weeding out candidates when all they’re doing is cutting out the best candidates. It’s the companies that don’t want to work. They don’t want to put work and time into finding good candidates.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago

No you're not putting this on everyone else this is on the companies.

If they didn't require 5 + years of experience in every job role then there wouldn't be a large amount of unqualified applicants. Pick any technology at all, including ones that came out 45 minutes ago, and it'll require 5 plus years of experience. I saw a job that wanted 2 years worth of experience in a technology that is still in beta and hasn't even officially been publicly released yet.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 6 days ago

Actual genuine nightmare fuel. This is not a lifestyle conducive to human health. Living this way is killing us.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Half the jobs aren't even real listings, they are just there so the company looks prosperous (by having job openings) and so they can have your data.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Correct answer and it's probably way higher than 50% now days.

[–] ame@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

In some states it is required to always have a job opening on a third party job board

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There are not even 100 new jobs a week where I live, and that is including absolutely everything. Limiting to something I am vaguely skilled at? Fuck all jobs. About quarter of a million people if you combine the large town and next door city where I live and there is so little to find to apply to. Even worse when jobs give a wrong location name.

Job advertised as being in city with postcode AB1, actual role is in a town that isn't even on he same island as the city in AB6

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 3 points 6 days ago

that's fucked

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It took me a couple hundred when I got laid off at Christmas last year. Was May before I got hired on again. I did hire an AI spamming service towards the end and I did start getting interviews off it, but ultimately found something on indeed. I still leave the spamming service running because, fuck HR and fuck their stupid systems, break them and make them figure out something else.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You need to not live in that area, or work that career.

I lost my job about a year before you did. Applied to maybeeee 10 places? I think fewer. Didn't even finish some of the take-home assignments because, honestly, my partner at the time was just riding me so hard I wanted to die and nothing else. Almost got one job - but the company ended up restructuring.

Ended up getting an unsolicited message from a recruiter 3 months into unemployment, took that job. Then one of the recruiters whose take-home I didn't complete emailed me to say hey we probably want you anyway, do you wanna discuss? I said sorry, not this time - I got an enticing job offer already. "Ok, congratulations! Feel free to let me know if it doesn't work out though"

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago

yea well they deserve to be flooded with AI applications so just give them what they earned

[–] josephc@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago

If each job takes 30 minutes to apply to, that's 50 hours per week, assuming you don't stop to eat or rest. I think my average job application takes a little longer unless I fill it with bullshit answers.

That's assuming you're just filling applications. It doesn't include finding them. I think in the time I was unemployed I passed over a few hundred absolutely reprehensible and morally objectionable positions.

Why so much ghosting? My speculation is perverse incentives of the modern world. Recruiters and HR need to justify their ongoing existence so they open positions that don't need to get filled so they can spend time filtering candidates. Meanwhile, candidates need to turn to auto filling jobs because and bulk applying because there are so many of these ghost jobs that recruiters who do need people can't get matched up. This turns into a race to the bottom of automation and counter automation where everyone loses.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

Now I doubt they used the same account, but I'd feel obligated to give 'yaoipilled kai, jellopussy' an interview at the very least.

I applied to over 600, and got two interviews. Neither worked out to be anything. Then, I said fuck it and started my own freelance business.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

That's about the number of applications i put in for my current job

This system needs to burn

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

1500 is way overblown in this economy.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I’d hate to be a graduate or junior developer at the moment. It was always rough but the market is rotting from the inside.

[–] ThelastfingerofH@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

The decline of entry level jobs coincides with a rise in the number of senior level jobs across industries, especially project management

I applied to 300+ jobs and was picked up by the biggest company I applied to.

[–] TheWonderfool@lemmy.world 204 points 1 week ago (21 children)

Wow... So you are expected to feel ghosted/rejected 100 times a week, and upwards to 1500 in total? I wonder how healthy that must be for your psyche...

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

In case anyone would like a reminder, this is a market failure and doesn't reflect on you personally whatsoever.

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 100 points 1 week ago (5 children)

We didn't have psyches back in the day. Just a can-do attitude and strong values.

And a bottle of alcohol too many here and there. And hobbies such as beating your wife black and blue in front of your kids. And fatal accidents from speeding around in our souped up cars.

Just none of that psyche shit, okay?

SLASH S.

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[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 151 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Also, every interview:

"So, why do you want to work with us, specifically?"

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago

I hate this question.

"So why do you want to work with us?"

"Because you corpo cunts are going to steal less of the value my labor produces and help me afford teeth."

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 95 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Well, specifically, I need money for housing, bills, and food.
Also, specifically, you gave me an interview so I'm now really interested in working...at wherever this place is. That's it, really.
...
I mean, yeah, I could blow smoke up your arse if you really wan me to. But I would hope you'd have the intelligence to realise that it's bullshit and that nowadays it's all about money. I whore my time out and you give me money. When do I start?

[–] ronigami@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

They know it’s bs and want to hire fellow people who can spew bs

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 101 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Jesus.

Look, I already realized I was living life on easy mode, but this post drives it home more.

I've applied for a job exactly five times in my life. I've gotten five interviews. And I've gotten four offers, all of which I accepted. I've never been unemployed for even a day, nor had to settle for staying where I was working for lack of available positions/job-listings.

The one time I didn't get an offer after an interview, the listing said they wanted "Python experience" (which I had quite a bit of), but in the interview they told me they were switching to C# (which I had never touched in my life). They passed me over ostensibly in favor of another applicant with C# experience. Kinda wasted both my and their time with that one. But it was very shortly thereafter that I landed another job. (As Java dev, which is gross, but I've got no right to complain in a thread about people getting interviews on less than 1% of their applications.)

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 89 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From my understanding depending on industry and geographic area “Arthur” is correct.

When I do counseling with younger people who have graduated school recently or whatever over the last 2 years or so this seems to be the situation for those that get 60-80k jobs. The search itself is an insane grind.

I graduated college in 2008 and it wasn’t even this bad then. It took hundreds of applications over 6-8 months but not thousands over 12-18 which is what I’m seeing now from people.

It’s that bit where as a counselor sometimes I get people who are like “it was hopeless so I just gave up” and I’m like “well, yeah, makes sense”. Like you can only grind so hard before the system breaks you

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