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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Most of that money stays in the country. If we shut down the tiny helicopter training base by my house, it would crush the local economy.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I'm surprised Japan is at #9, I would've expected Sweden or Finland above them

[–] tal@lemmy.today 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

One thing to keep in mind is that defense spending tends to rely heavily on local provision. You generally can't just import soldiers, and keeping military-industrial supply chains local or at minimum trusted is also a requirement. So using something like a PPP-adjusted figure rather than a nominal figure is probably going to be closer to what you're actually buying, and that rather considerably diminishes the difference.

kagis for someone discussing the matter

https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/chinas-military-rise-comparative-military-spending-china-and-us

Given current data, China’s military expenditure in PPP terms is estimated to be $541 billion, or 59% of US spending, and its equipment levels are only 42% of US levels. Comparing trends over time shows that the US has matched China in recent years, albeit at the cost of a much higher defence burden.

The underlying mechanism here is that China has a lot of people who will work for rather-lower wages than in the US, which means that each nominal dollar China budgets for their military can buy them more military capacity than in the US, via taking advantage of those lower wages.

If the US had a large supply of workers willing to work at Chinese wages, and could use them to drive its military and military-industrial system, that wouldn't be a factor.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't the USA numbers very skewed because they include like healthcare and pensions in their numbers, even for former soldiers, while say europeans don't?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago (5 children)

i think its a very small percentage, only 62billion goes to healthcare in the defense budget. half goes to defense contractors, which is huge.

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[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Also, (and I'm no kind of expert) it seems there's a lot of graft involved in the spending, such as $67 charged for a screw, and that kind of thing. A good bit of it due to a kickback-type arrangement between the politicians involved (think Dick Cheney) and the defense contractors who get awarded the deals.

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[–] individual@toast.ooo 11 points 1 week ago

If the VA was a military it would be in the top 5.

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