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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

No need other than to take a quick glance south is all IMO.

[–] Pacino@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Canada used to have a problem with gun owners selling their handguns on the black market. We are talking about Canadians with a valid PAL licence.

They purchased guns. Sold them. Profit. Easy as pie.

Winnipegger bought guns legally, sold them to gangs

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/theodore-mantas-firearms-trafficking-1.4357623

A 22-year-old Airdrie man is accused of buying guns and selling them to criminals.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/airdrie-alert-straw-purchasing-firearms-brady-fisher-1.5569889

Philip Edward Sarrasin, 26, is accused of running a straw purchasing scheme, where he legally bought multiple handguns which later turned up for sale on the criminal market.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/gun-firearm-glock-straw-purchasing-trafficking-weapons-alert-1.4924037

Straw buyers were involved in two recent busts in northern Alberta that took illegal guns off the streets. The man, who was arrested on May 9, bought five handguns between November and December last year and resold them.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alert-guns-investigations-weapons-drugs-straw-buyers-1.5145282

An Edmonton man who pleaded guilty received an eight-year prison sentence Thursday for his role in an illegal weapons trafficking scheme.

Shipowich had a restricted firearm licence when he purchased 40 restricted firearms between June and September 2016.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-man-gets-8-years-in-prison-for-role-in-weapons-trafficking-scheme-1.4676590

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The good news? That problem is now over. It's not happening anymore. The price of handguns on the black market has increased, which is a good sign.

The bad news? Most guns are now only coming from the United States. And the United States doesn't want to address the problem.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I gotta say, today I'm looking very differently at these articles I've read 5 years ago too. I don't want to be afraid of a rando pulling a gun on me because I looked at them the wrong way, or having petty robberies get deadly. At the same time I'm looking at Mango Mussolini down south and can't help but feel some desire of having an AR15 around. I almost don't believe I'm actually thinking this but here we are. 😒

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 4 points 13 hours ago

You can have both. "Well-regulated militia" and all that. A community group that trains and keeps guns in a central secure location in case of war etc is a very far cry from giving everyone a 9mm for funsies. Good luck convincing your government to let you do that tho.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I get what the article is going for, but the author premises hand gun owners carrying it on themselves, which we cannot do. That being said yes handguns are used to put holes in paper, or people, so they really aren't needed, I don't like the idea of outright banning them, but instead making the acquisition process much more thorough

[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The process for getting handguns was very thorough. But now there is no process and you can't buy them. The article 8s 5 years old.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It wasn't thorough enough in my opinion, the testing was too easy, the rpal course didn't have nearly enough hands on. There are a bunch of ways the licensing process could be improved upon

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don’t know if they changed it, I think they did, but I just did rpal and it was very hands on.

We went through actually practicing safe storage, different locking mechanisms, cases, all major handgun actions, etc. There was a very strong focus on handling and storing them safely.

I will agree the tests weren’t super hard.

It might vary depend on where you were taught and resources available. My instructor had all sorts of types of firearms out and we had hands-on time with all of them; but we only talked about the storage requirements

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Sure but it's still only a few weekends long of a course, and there should be actual practical at the range

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve only seen them on farms

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Affirmative.

A rifle is too bulky and loud to bring in a stall/shoot at point blank.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is so confusing because; handguns are just as loud, rodent control is best dealt with an air powered gun, and unless you're going out to specifically do that task you wouldn't be bringing your tool.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shooting a horse or a cow not rodents.

I don’t understand the last part.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think you know many farmers. They are not shooting their animals. Slaughterhouses do that part and they usually drown or use the pneumatic bolt made famous in No Country for Old Men.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I just said it’s the only time I’ve seen handguns, doesn’t mean I’ve seen a lot in Canada.

*cops notwithstanding

Gotcha my b.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You mean like putting an animal out of its misery? Well the proper way to do that would be to call a vet, but if you wanted to shoot it, a rifle would not necessarily be too bulky

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

That’s been my only experience with hand guns

Also because you mentioned vet but I don’t think they do it here. Vets can be licensed for a hand gun in the UK for such an occasion. - Source I helped a friend study.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because everyone who needs - really needs - one, will have it issued by the employer. Speaking as former infantry, if your employer does not give you a pistol, you do not need a pistol. If you insist on having a pistol when you do not need a pistol, your problem is more personal than gun laws. Simple-as.

If Americans invade, I have a rock. They'll bring the gun to me. They'll probably leave it somewhere, actually, while re-tying their flourescent Nikes.

[–] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If the US invades, a little hand gun isn't going to help at all.

Hunting rifles would be much better for long range sniping. I'd rather have a shotgun if it's closer combat. We can get those easily (all things considered).

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Why would they invade when they can just embargo. We couldn't get anything in or out if they said no.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

And an FN-P90 without the muzzle extension is also much more appropriate in an urban-warfare situation than any handgun.

150 rounds in 50-round magazines and in-stock storage for two magazines, UN ammunition that has limited range to avoid secondary fatalities, extremely short bullpup length for tight environments, two-handed use so it isn’t easily ripped from your grasp… the list goes on and on.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s a good thing that there’s no illegally imported guns in Canada, otherwise this might just punish legal gun owners.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At the end of the day we need to look at why guns are being imported illegally and address the root cause

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

poor legal gun owners… thoughts and prayers

[–] Binzy_Boi@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You do realise that just about all legal gun owners own guns purely for hunting, right?

You also realise that this would intrude on indigenous rights if we banned legal guns... right?

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you’re hunting with a handgun?

[–] Binzy_Boi@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I got the impression from comment I'm responding to that they're against legal guns in general. Might be misreading.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

this thread is about handguns specifically and they said nothing about other kinds of guns

(and i must say too, as an aussie, i love that we have near 0 gun deaths! it can’t possible be our near total gun ban though… must be something else)

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

I’m not making any proposals so not sure what you’re on about “this” intruding on anyone’s rights

Yeah fuck those guys doing things by the book! How fucking dare they follow the letter of the law!

[–] Boing@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this needs to go away and open the handgun market again for legal gun owners. They are not the problem smuggling from the US is. The Liberals have neutered the whole sport shooting community by banning all these sales and imports. No new shooters can join therefore the sports are slowly going to die as shooters stop attending or lose interest in the game because no new blood in entering the sport. In 2018 it was calculated that Shooting sports in Canada was over an $8.5 billion a year for Hunting and Sport Shooting combined. America is not going to invade Canada🤣 If it did it would be over before you even knew it was happening. While our Military is well trained we are under funded, under staffed and under equipped.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A conventional war between Canada and the US will be over in days, if not hours. I'm not sure America could win an unconventional (guerilla) war with Canada.

[–] Boing@lemmy.ca -4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

First off We are Allies, this is FOOLISH Second the only way the US will take Canada is ECONOMICALLY Because the LIBERALS have RUINED CANADA and BANKRUPT CANADA
I am a retired Veteran and just thinking about this is Awful

What is going to happen in Canada when a Democrat President gets voted in the States, whenever that happens? All this damage that Carney has caused is going to have huge ramifications in Canada.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Wars can be fought on multiple fronts in different ways. We are currently in a trade war with America, started by them, as well as having them threaten and dismiss our sovereignty. This is not the act of an ally. Much like how relations with Germany are currently good, we can considering repairing the relationship with America when theis war and these acts of aggression are over.

I literally have family across America from north to south and east to west. That is no reason to put up with the hostility their nation is showing ours.

[–] Boing@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 hours ago

Big war tactician are you, have lots of time in the trenches? I am well aware of our trade situation and I wouldn't call it a war by any means. That's just the legacy media fear mongering the sheep Bhhhaaaa The Actions of our PM of not communicating with the President and by flying all over the world and delivering huge Nothing Burgers back to Canada. He had made 1 US trip and very little attempts to make any real deals with Trump himself.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because keeping someone in jail for a lifetime costs a lot of taxes and many people don't like to pay taxes.