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Their fusion and fission work is very impressive,” the Microsoft Corp. co-founder said of China’s nuclear innovation efforts. The country is investing more in fusion “than the rest of the world put together, times two

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And basically all forms of green energy

And high speed rail

And like the majority of metrics that one would use to measure investment in one’s populace

But we spend more on the military then the next like 5 countries put together, so that’s something, I guess. Imagine if we also poured that money into infrastructure instead of facilitating genocide

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

China has the highest emissions in the world!

Only right now though. And only in annual volume. And in large part because they make just about everything for just about every other country.

China has four times the population of the United States. Despite this and being the world's factory, their CO2 emissions per capita are only 10.1 tons. Which sounds like a lot - and it is - but the United States emissions are 17.6 tons per capita.

But who cares about all that mumbo jumbo. Don't go looking at how America got here, to this pedestal so high above the rest. There's nothing to see in the past, just some work ethic and a good pair bootstraps. Don't worry about it.

China bad, America good!

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[–] remon@ani.social 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Imagine if we also poured that money into infrastructure instead of facilitating genocide

But they manage all of that while also facilitating genocide, proving you can do both.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago
[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bill upset that he can't embrace, extend, and extinguish China.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago
[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Breakthrough Energy Ventures — a climate investment firm Gates founded — has bankrolled several nuclear startups, including fusion pioneer Commonwealth Fusion Systems

What exactly has CFS pioneered? I am genuinely curious.

Their wikipedia page states that they have yet to demonstrate net power generation (via fusion reactor) with the current target date set for 2027.

Their SPARC concept seems to be based on the ARC concept which is described as having the following key benefit:

The key technical innovation is to use high-temperature superconducting magnets in place of ITER's low-temperature superconducting magnets. The proposed device would be about half the diameter of the ITER reactor and cheaper to build.

The sentence cites an article titled "Advances in magnet technology could bring cheaper, modular fusion reactors from sci-fi to sci-reality in less than a decade" from August 2015. Less than a decade indeed.

Gate goes on to say the following:

A growing number of big tech companies from Microsoft to Alphabet Inc.’s Google have inked power purchase agreements with nuclear startups [e.g. CFS] to secure future electricity supply. But Gates says there is still a long way off for those startups to deliver electricity at scale.

“Nuclear as a whole won't be a gigantic contributor to data center electricity until 2035, and that's assuming everything goes well,” he said.

I honestly don't understand what the article is trying to say (both explicitly and implicitly). Gates believes that we need to invest more into fusion and fission to compete with china [and change our attitudes to nuclear power]?

I say all of this as someone who is generally supportive of nuclear power (I live in Ukraine, if not for our nuclear power plants, things would be far far worse with our electricity situation).

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Bill, stop trying to make nuclear happen. It's not unlimited free energy. It's not going to greenwash AI and besides AI is not going to fix the world.

Renewables are here to stay and solar is as close as we will get to 'free' energy.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 13 points 1 day ago

Bill, stop trying to make nuclear happen.

Why tho?

Renewables are here to stay and solar is as close as we will get to 'free' energy.

Why not both?

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 day ago

Is it the 60's in here again or somrthing? What a load of ignorant wash.

[–] gigachad@piefed.social -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are going to make a lot of people influenced by the nuclear propaganda lobby very angry. Didn't you know Germany had to increase their fossil fuel consumption by 1,000,000% after they stopped nuclear power? /s

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lmao what the heck is a nuclear propaganda lobby?

Also, by stopping nuclear power Germany had to increase their carbon emissions by ~400% while also spending more than half a trillion euros so... uh... yeah.

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Check out this wiki article, it gives a great overview.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I did, still not sure why this is supposed to be a problem beyond a general money in politics thing. "Nuclear companies do PR" isn't really a surprising statement.

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago

"People falling for PR companies doing" might make more sense. Internet people are so uncritical of nuclear power, it is almost comical.