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[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder how much of the emissions are caused by the ongoing wars. I suspect that manufacturing weapons and the destruction would create significant emissions.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I imagine death is probably a bigger concern

[–] Lugh@futurology.today 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will make many uncomfortable to say it, but the hero in this story is China. If we didn't have their industrial might making solar cheap, then this wouldn't be happening.

[–] Mathprogrammer1@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, but they've already been a big reason that co2 emissions have been rising so much

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

China did the same thing the US did in the 50s. They went all-in on industrialization and building their economy, pollution be damned. And like the US, once they got on their feet, they dialed the pollution way down.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

They should have peaked 50+ years ago when we first realized it was fucking up our atmosphere. Instead wealthy oil companies covered it up and lied to everyone for decades so they could keep becoming wealthier and wealthier no matter what the cost.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago… second best time is now.

[–] sylverstream@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 year ago

True, but absolutely pointless to discuss as we can't change the past. Time to act is now.

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're basically being bailed out by luck. Renewable electricity has gotten cheap; it didn't have to. If that hadn't of happened we'd probably be doing business as usual and accelerating into catastrophe.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have bad news for you: We're still accelerating into catastrophe, just not quite as fast as we otherwise would've been. We need to keep trying of course, but we still have a very long way to go before we can even think about considering ourselves in the clear.

I haven’t even begun to peak

- Global emissions

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] Espiritdescali@futurology.today -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem in my mind is that all the solar panels and wind turbines are being built with fossil fuels, causing even more demand which the oil companies are only happy to fulfil. We need to reduce the amount of energy we use somehow, whilst still maintaining our level of civilisation.

[–] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

That's not going to happen