this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2023
2057 points (93.5% liked)

Fuck Cars

11417 readers
435 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
(page 4) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] UhBell@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (32 children)

You ever try taking your new mattress and bed frame on a train?

load more comments (32 replies)
[–] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

cars don't need to be driverless to be electric. i'm in favor of public transport but as long as we're in the long process of building it out it's still a lot better to have electric cars than gas guzzlers, with drivers still included.

there is a doctrine here where you fuck up a less optimal but easier solution just to force the world to adopt the better one but it's a shitty thing to do. public transport and electric vehicles aren't exclusive. in fact, for lower density stuff we will need buses and those should be electrified too.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] itscozydownhere@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

In cities, yeah. Outside cities, impossible

But I'd love to rent autonomous electric cars to move

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Been seeing a big push for trains in Florida and California lately, hopefully things with Amtrak go well and we see more lines implemented in the future

[–] psud@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Because many of us live in places where you must use a car, there are no alternatives

In such places electric public transport is nothing but a pipe dream

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Because trains aren’t economically viable for the vast majority of the US, and where they are economically they are the topic of conversation.

As far as why the conversation would center around the US, that’s just the regular American-centric tilt english conversations generally lean towards. Most of Europe has their shit together in some topics like this (public transportation, for instance) and the US is a huge consumer of automobiles and no one if building mass transit between the middle of nowhere to the other middle of nowhere where we could ‘efficiently’ move individually insignificant numbers of people at a time.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] nick26@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We 100% need more trains. But in rural America, we need cars to do anything.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] 6mementomori@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

because in lots of countries there is effectively no public transport culture existing, and car companies take advantage of that. it's really just about car culture and taking advantage of people in my opinion

[–] berkat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In some countries it's also more efficient to drive.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] DiabolicalDucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Trains are electric. They use diesel generators to power the wheels.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago

On a job, I went to site which services these things. Heart breakingly, after they have stripped down, serviced, and rebuilt the massive diesel engine, they run it, flat out, for 8 hours and all that energy, which could power a good chunk of the town, is thrown away as heat in a load bank. Plumes of dirty diesel exaughst are common on site.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some trains can be connected to the grid 24/7 through overhead wires and/or onboard reserve batteries. This grid could be powered by greener sources of energy.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›