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A 6th grade girls team from Kentucky was set to go for the year-end championship tournament, but was told they were banned due to fears boys teams might 'retaliate' if they lost to the girls team.

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[–] DoctorSpocktopus@lemmy.ca 185 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Once again, girls are somehow responsible for boys’ inability to behave 🤦

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Once again there appears to be more to this story than the poor quality article linked suggests.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 58 points 11 months ago

Here's the quotes:

SWOB President Tom Sunderman expressed concern in a statement:

"Doing this for 28 years, what we have worried about is a boys team losing to a girls team (especially in the year end tourney), they may get frustrated and retaliate against a girl." "Then we have liability issues.” Prez, a social media user on X (Formerly Twitter), didn't buy it.

"What he meant to say was they can’t have their boys being emasculated by a better girls team… it would be a blow to their developing manhood to get beat by girls."

What context am I missing?

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago

Retaliating against your opponents for beating you in a game isn't normal, but on Patriarchy it is.

Patriarchy, not even once.

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[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 121 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"...what we have worried about is a boys team is losing to a girls team (especially in a year end tourney) they may get frustrated and retaliate against a girl," a text allegedly sent by the tournament directors reads.

"Throughout the season we had a few teams come to us about this and raise concerns about it. Because of this we decided to keep them out of the tournament," another text reads.

Oh, so the teams were threatening to commit violence against the girls. Why not just kick those teams out?

[–] thorcik@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

"For their safety" :vomits:

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I don't want to be an old man, but if you hit a girl when I was in 6th grade, you were an instant social pariah. Everyone would beat your ass.

Kicking them out doesn't solve the problem. They'd just blame the girls instead of being introspective. Let one of these loser little boys throw hands and learn really fucking fast that the meanest, hardest hitting monster on this planet is a pissed off 12 year old girl. When he's getting his hair ripped out a fistful at a time, he'll understand why he lost.

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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 111 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How about policing the boys' damned behavior for one fucking time in their lives, then?

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago

They'd have to not agree with the behavior in the first place.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Sorry, but boys-will-be-boys. So we have to ban girls from competing, because we literally cannot continence telling any of our precious little superstars to cut that shit out.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 102 points 11 months ago

So the league decided to preemptively retaliate on behalf of the hypothetical violent boys?

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is how most sex segregated sports came about

  1. women beats men
  2. women banned
  3. segregated division created because of "biological differences"
[–] Balinares@pawb.social 60 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I wonder why people are downvoting your comment. It's literally what happened. See for instance this paper on the history of gender segregation in the Olympics: https://theworld.org/stories/2016-08-17/see-120-years-struggle-gender-equality-olympics.

Quote: "Margaret Murdock from the US won a silver in a tie in the 1976 Riffle Event, one of the events in the shooting categories. The rifle event was split into men's and women's events in 1984."

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Sports without contact mechanics I've always wondered why the split. Like men's and women's chess... what?

But men's and women's football? That kind of makes sense, not saying women's should be banned from the men's leagues, but let them make that choice themselves

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

Women's chess leagues exist for women who want to compete without facing misogynistic behavior. They can also compete against men, however, unlike in other sports, and many do. If you ask me, what should have been done from the start would have been tackling the misoginy.

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[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (11 children)

One of top posts here is selective as fuxk quoting only the president's backpedalling after their official initi statement being the fear of retaliation. I'm getting way too annoyed watching the upvotes (aka misinformation) grow just because this asshat added a quote.

Oh by the way, sunderman.- the president - coached one of the boy teams that played against the girls team. And they are trying to say it took time to realize, to justify why they were allowed to play up until the championships. FFS this is garbage sportmanship

(Edited to correct autocorrect)

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[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago (18 children)

Sexist, ignorant and disappointing. 3/3 for Kentucky

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Y’all Qaeda strikes again.

[–] KredeSeraf@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

God damn Talibangelicals and their Shakira law.

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[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can relate. I was beat up by another kid of my age after practice because I beat him in a really small and unimportant Judo tournament. We were both 12 and his parents, my parents and the trainers all agreed that he just overreacted because he was scared the other boys would bully him. I switched to ballet afterwards.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

That's a shit dojo 100%. Everywhere I've trained if someone pulled that shit, they'd at the very least get sat the fuck down for a good long chat with the sensei, if not kicked out entirely... not to mention pushups, so, so, so many pushups.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Whats that say about how the boys have been raised? And this just reinforces that.

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[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 37 points 11 months ago (3 children)

More sources that go into depth on what happened and the fallout ...

https://www.rawstory.com/next-level-basketball/

https://www.wvxu.org/sports/2024-03-04/kentucky-girls-basketball-team-banned-southwestern-ohio

And maybe this is why the girls were shut down ... On Feb 28 in an event in Alabama the girl's team, who were forced to play in the boy's league, won the championship but the trophy went to the losers instead.

https://www.cbssports.com/general/news/why-an-alabama-girls-youth-basketball-team-wasnt-awarded-a-championship-trophy-after-beating-a-boys-team/

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's 11 years old.

Okay let's hear all the excuses for 11 year olds needing to be super competitive and separated by gender.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (4 children)

At 11, girls tend to be taller than boys. So all that estrogen is providing them with a competitive advantage.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Then they should make 2 leagues: one where everyone is allowed to participate, and another one where only boys can participate, so they can win too. Just like we have with every sport's women's league.

Of course the prizes in the boys-only league should be lower since they play in a less competitive league.

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[–] Vrijgezelopkamers@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Better to prepare those boys for all of the ass-whoopings women will serve them in their future professional careers, no?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 34 points 11 months ago (10 children)

My favorite sport to watch is girls volleyball...I don't like to watch sports in general

Most people treat me like a creep when I bring it up, but it's way more dynamic and interesting than men's volleyball. I used to scorekeep the sport, women's volleyball is just more entertaining

IDGAF about basketball to start with, but if the boys can't compete we should throw them by the wayside. I don't get why this is even a question

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

cue counterstrike audio: "Terrorists Win"

[–] Seraph@kbin.social 28 points 11 months ago

Of course you can play with the boys!

No not like that - you have to let them beat you!

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Regardless of the prejudice angle in this story, I feel bad for the girls for being excluded from possibly winning the championship, especially when they were performing well.

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[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 19 points 11 months ago

That makes perfect sense - only ~~grown-ass adults~~ whittle gurls could ever be afraid that someone might lose a game!

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nice.

So it basically boils down to this.

We as Kentuckians realized we failed as parents at a state wide level therefore we will continue to be shit parents and ban the girls for having better parents to appease the shitty parents and their shittily raised boys so they don't get a bruised ego for failing as parents and humans.

Again, very nice.

[–] morriscox@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Sunderman should have kicked them out for lying, not out of "concern" for the potential behavior of boys. As soon as he made that claim he went into the wrong. If the boys can't behave properly then kick them out. It's like how a gal shouldn't have to worry about being raped because of what she is or isn't wearing or doing or not doing. We're telling females what to do or not to do and not males what to do or not do.

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