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[–] KillaBeez@lemmy.world 85 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Maybe all of those in favor of the protests kept their word and only those who are against it remain?

[–] Appie@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (20 children)

I don't miss Reddit. I checked some comment sections and holy hell is it toxic compared to here. I think part of that is because of what you've mentioned in your comment.

[–] soulless@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I used to work for this major company, biggest in my country by far.

Whether it was going well or poorly, they tended to offer severance packages to "cut back" on their staff, to appease the grotesquely overpaid consultants that analysed their finances.

What tended to happen, was that the most qualified people, who had no issues finding another job (often better paying), took those packages (I took home a one year salary after having worked there almost three, then had two months vacation and started a better paying job), which left those who didn't really have other options, those who did the bare minimum and had a lot of useless meetings.

I guess that's what reddit is heading for. They are alienating those who contribute the most, the content creators, the mods and the ones who like to engage others. They will be left with their bots, lurkers, racists, reposters and porn-spammers.

Good riddance.

[–] snarsher@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Completely agree. I'm kinda hoping the substance of reddit just moves to lemmy and none of us will have to deal with so many tools and trolls.

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The trash will still escape Reddit. As evidenced by my being here :)

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[–] Dalek@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’ll be real. I miss it for very specific subs. It’s definitely more toxic but small game subs and stuff like that I miss

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Poke back and encourage mod teams to move here.

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[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

holy hell is it toxic compared to here

I cannot agree more! I went to reddit (wirhour an acc) and just... wow. Did it got worse or was I always blind to how awful that place was?

[–] Ravenzfire@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think you are seeing some withdrawal symptoms honestly. People are addicted to scrolling for their next dopamine hit. When that's taken away they get cranky. Add the anonymous nature of being online and things get toxic real fast.

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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

I miss my smaller and niche subs. I don’t think I’ve waded into the default subs in a very long time.

Oh well, to everything there is a season, right?

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[–] AwkwardPenguin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I think this might actually be the case. Let's see how things work out. Lemmy surprised me as a proper alternative it's just not as content rich as reddit at the moment. Something about chickens and eggs.

Let's just expand and improve it further than the original lemmies did. Don't be afraid to post content, heck scrape content and make this the better option. People will follow content.

[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I’d like to add that there’s already been a significant increase in the amount of content and comments in just the last few days. I joined a whole 5 days ago (so many ages ago, I know) and back then it was somewhere between 1 and 2k users on this instance. It was way emptier - you could read all of the posts in most of the “big” communities in an hour or so. And the new feed was pretty stale.

Lemmy’s not the firehose of content that is Reddit yet, but it’s making real progress.

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[–] eselover@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just switched over to lemmy from reddit, and it is much nicer here isn't riddled with ads and toxicity. I just hope that more users do join over here, since there were a few subreddits/people I followed and would still like to see there updates/posts

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[–] melonpunk@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's something to that. Hearing stories of subreddits reopen and ask the userbase what they want to do, well, who exactly are they asking? I'm not there, and I've seen plenty of posts from others who are also not there. Are they taking silence as votes against? I doubt it.

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[–] Alkalyon@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This comment is incorrect as well.

The people that cared left and what's left behind is people that wouldn't leave anyway and the strike only bothers them.

This person is living in a bubble and can't see further than their nose.

[–] YerbaYerba@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago

Survivorship bias!

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[–] instamat@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (10 children)

The fediverse is the way. I’m not smart enough to say if it’s the best option, but it’s a hell of a lot better than a profit driven monolith run by out of touch investors. Reddit won’t implode but it won’t be the same as it was even a week ago. This decentralized structure is what the internet wants to be.

[–] melonpunk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

One way I'm looking at this opportunity is like email, anyone can set up an email server thanks to how it got established. So if this pans out and eventually we get funded hosts in the vein of Gmail and Hotmail, who spend money writing fancy UIs and on marketing, we still have a fundamental base where we can shuffle away from the big players and go set up our own servers.

I do hope to see some funded options come into this space, they can control/own their interface into the data, but they can't control/own the data.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

as long as we are vigilant for the microsoft method of embrace, extend, extingush/enshittify we will be good.

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[–] PorkrollPosadist@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The fediverse has one thing going for it that any other alternative lacks: a credible approach to dealing with the network effect. In isolation, it is very difficult to start an independent social media website. This becomes much, much easier when you have neighboring sites that you can interact with. Federation serves as a catalyst. I've been longing for the proliferation of open source social media for over 15 years. Nothing has changed the state of affairs more thoroughly than the introduction of federation.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's certainly the best option that currently exists at least.

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[–] melonpunk@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I think people are seeing Reddit as their only solution right now due to the lack of awareness of this place. It's been a bit sad to see all the news articles written about the event but very few plugs for alternate options to visit.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

investor class protectng its latest cash-cow.

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[–] jake_eric@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I've been telling people, the only way this works is if communities migrate somewhere else. Every single blacked out subreddit needs to post their new location on a site other than Reddit. Otherwise people will just stay on Reddit and wait or visit/make new subreddits.

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[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

we have had the first wave - and its gone well. second wave is incomming on or about the 30th - probably smaller, but no less committed (long term). after that its a war of attrition.

[–] CyanFen@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago (6 children)

unrelated to your comment (sorta), but I just saw your comment update in real time after you edited it. I just thought that's a really cool feature and wanted to point it out :)

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

realtime comment subscriptions are pretty damn slick.

[–] iod@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe this will be gone very soon though once they remove websockets

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 2 years ago

I think the 30th will be smaller, but the ones who do participate will be more likely to go indefinite as users who just can't stand the official app are forced to quit.

[–] dylan@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Yep, I feel like a lot of people are forgetting about the wave coming at the end of the month. We’ll see plenty more people then.

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[–] Xylinna@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

This person can suck it. I was a big time Reddit fan (mostly a lurker) but I decided to continue my boycott of Reddit as long as u/spez is in play and even when he leaves they would need to do a lot to get me to go back. The Fediverse still has some work to do with QoL features but overall it is a less toxic world than Reddit and refreshing to take part in. When mlem and other phone apps really get going I think it will really attract a lot more users as a lot of folks are phone only users and we'll see the Fediverse really take hold.

[–] Hindufury@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I'm doing my part. I hope others do an exodus and not a hiatus.

[–] kane@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

There's enough content here on lemmy to scratch my itch to scroll

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[–] LostCause@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I knew a lot of people would follow spez and toe the company line, just like they did with Twitter. I don‘t mind, I‘d rather hang out here without all them anyway.

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[–] PixelPioneer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Not going back to Reddit ever, too much bs.

[–] HyperCube@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I feel like a lot of people are forgetting about survivorship bias as well. If all the people who supported the blackout left Reddit, then the only people left would be the ones who aren't in favour :)

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[–] Dandroid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I have noticed this so much today. I pretty much lived in r/hockey for the past 5 years. They had a vote and decided to black out for the 48 hour protest. Once it was clear that the vote was in favor of blacking out (and that the championship deciding game could be played during the blackout), people started pleading to move the blackout to after the championship was decided, which completely defeats the purpose of the protest.

Well, during the blackout, the championship was decided. Now that it's open again, everyone is again flipping out about how pointless the protests were, and how we ruined their experience of watching the championship game.

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[–] OhSnapKracklePopped@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I don’t understand. Maybe it’s my adhd and lack of object permanence, but I have been so unbothered by the lack of Reddit.

I bought a plant today. I’ve never bought a plant. I bought cats before buying a houseplant. I’m pretty stoked—and it’s mostly because I was scrolling through Reddit that I got up to do it.

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[–] Lilacwitch17@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I used Reddit because I was bored and watching tv. I barely interacted. I am interacting on Lemmy. There was a lot of angry, toxic people on Reddit. So I am glad they are staying there

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[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I've gotten death threats, Reddit cares message, and all kinds of hate mail for saying my sub should stay restricted. And I only have 167k people subbed. It's intense

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[–] liontigerwings@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All of these subs should have been linking to a comparable Lemmy community instead of just saying they were protesting. The simple fact of the matter is that the lemmyverse is not mature enough of a platform to actually be a reddit replacement. It needs to get a lot of the kinks worked out and it needs a much better onboarding. Hopefully it can take these new users and steadily grow and while they grow they can fix these issues.

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[–] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm getting downvoted in the /r/gis sub for agreeing with the mods that there should be an indefinite shutdown. It seems all that are left on the site are people simping for /u/spez. Some person even called me a "fucking idiot." Glad to be off that toxic dumpster fire of a website.

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[–] AndreTelevise@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Reddit was my primary social media page for over 2 years now.

Now that it's practically gone, finding good alternatives is hard.

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[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Personally, I like the Lemmy community better. It's definitely possible to find great stuff on reddit (and in particular for news, I think reddit is superior to what I've been finding on Lemmy), but the overall ratio of content : crap is much, much higher here.

Now that I've broken the seal, I honestly am not sure what people are going back to so eagerly on reddit. Maybe just the dopamine of lots and lots of stories and comments to interact with, or maybe they're part of something I don't interact with there.

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[–] Debs@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (8 children)

The hardest part for me was realizing how shit Google search is without appending reddit.

[–] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Someone made a firefox plugin that redirects to archive.org Wayback Machine cache version of reddit:

https://lemmy.world/post/146892

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