So does it mean that Russia won't be able to launch missiles from the Black Sea anymore? That may be a godsent to shuffle around air defenses elsewhere.

[–] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Russian bombers can still launch missiles from the Black Sea, but this reduces the number of cruise missiles they can use in an attack by 8.

[–] maculata@aussie.zone 10 points 9 months ago

But submarines can launch cruise missiles CANT they?

And Ukraine just turned this into a submarine.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Beautiful. Always good to see those imperial warships sink, but that fact that this will stop them from launching cruise missiles is incredible.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Can you not launch cruise missles from land?

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah you absolutely can. And from air. The biggest benefit is probably that this limits the number of angles into Ukraine russia can launch missiles from, which makes air defense easier.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Pretty much. This doesn't limit the angle since the Kremlin can still launch from a bomber over the Black Sea, but it means they have 6 fewer missiles in an attack. So, air defence will have an easier time taking them out.

[–] DrGeraintLLannfrancheta@nafo.army 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@NotMyOldRedditName @fuckingkangaroos that is a question I asked myself as well. But then it would be the like the famous US nuclear 'cruise missile' (from the @FRHoffmann1 header). If you saw these latest French turbo jet drones the line blurs imo. I think the US tomahawk can be land based. But an answer from a not armchair military guy would be great.

[–] DrGeraintLLannfrancheta@nafo.army 1 points 9 months ago

@NotMyOldRedditName @fuckingkangaroos (my gut says it has something to do with tactical positioning of the weapon system... Cruise missiles are slow in comparison to ballistic missiles and if you could preposition in minutes in a fighter jet you could outrun Enemy ad). A guess.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago

Russia is using anti ship missiles to hit land targets. The launchers for those are only on ships. That does not mean, you can not put them on land, but it is going to be some engineering work.

Maybe more importantly those missiles are a threat to Ukranian shipping.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago

Hahahahahhahahahahahahahaha!

Get fucked, Russia.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wait is that 3 ships in the last weekish?

[–] rimu@piefed.social 10 points 9 months ago

I think so?! Seems to be a trend!

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago

A good day for Ukraine!

[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

If Ukraine ends up significantly decimating the Russian fleet currently in the Black Sea, it exposes the occupied territories for attacks.

Not that Ukraine is going to take back any land this way but the attack surface is way greater than before and Russia has to either move essential assets far from the coast or they have to move resources from the existing front line to new areas. There is nothing for Russia to gain by diverting resources to the coastal lines since they will either just be able to hold their positions or lose ground. They can never advance.

Of course it all comes down to what resources Ukraine gets their hands on in the coming months and while all of the above looks promising, the reality is significantly darker.

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 2 points 9 months ago

@LaFinlandia wow, so many underwater ships!