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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 80 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This graph is the most damning. We’ve made zero progress according to the only metric that matters.

[–] b_boy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why does the graph begin at 1959?

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 15 points 2 years ago

When should it begin?

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I believe that’s the NOAA data source and they started measuring this in the late 50’s. The direct measurement data doesn’t go further back because the technology to measure and or concern wasn’t there.

That said, people have been able to extrapolate past carbon ppm through means other than direct measurement.

https://theconversation.com/scientists-understood-physics-of-climate-change-in-the-1800s-thanks-to-a-woman-named-eunice-foote-164687#:~:text=Humans%20were%20already%20increasing%20carbon,carbon%20dioxide%20into%20the%20air.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago (4 children)

So that's why all the conservatives are laughing and cheering. I was wondering why they were celebrating. They are accomplishing their mission of killing us all.

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Owning the libs will become the most common cause of death of conservatives.

[–] K3zi4@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Them libs want to protest the climate issue? Well fuck em, let's burn more oil and make more profit for those companies! That'll show them snowflake protestors!"

This is literally the mindset we're up against. They've been brainwashed so hard into "owning libs", and have their tongues so far up billionaire's arseholes, they have lost any sense of empathy, sympathy, and basic intelligence. We're all fucked.

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Part of the problem with being socially minded is that your representatives tend to be less inclined to abuse their power to disingenuously manipulate useful idiots. We'd rather educate them than manipulate them, but they're too stupid to know the difference.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Also of everyone else.

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't worry, they're gearing up for the "Climate change is real, but we just need to genocide more of the people with a <100kg/yr carbon footprint to fix it" chapter of dogshit rhetoric soon.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They'll never say that in good faith because it's the rich that have the biggest carbon footprints.

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

My point is they'll (continue to) blame the people whose carbon footprints are <1% of theirs and would be manageable for centuries and advocate for genocide as a solution.

Currently blaming the global south is just used to deflect.

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Killing everyone will kill more liberals than conservatives, so it's a net positive for them!

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[–] Arsenal4ever@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

See you next summer.

This will be the coolest summer you ever experience.

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Nah, that will be 2027. After the current El Nino oscillation but before the 50 degree summers start.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Fun fact: All this probably happened because we stopped to geoengineer by outlawing ships blowing sulphur into the air which created additional cloud cover. That is, this year isn't really exceptional climate-change wise, it's just that we could witness, by fortuitous natural experiment, how much worse it actually already is... as well as that we can limit the impact by geoengineering. It works, and without wrecking havoc on the overall system.

And the good news is that we don't need to blow sulphur into the air to generate clouds, the same effect can be had by blowing salt water into the air, just strap a couple of water cannons to every cargo ship. No I'm dead serious.

[–] doomer@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

All this probably happened because we stopped to geoengineer by outlawing ships blowing sulphur into the air which created additional cloud cover.

You have your causality running backwards... this was already here, and the sulfur was masking it. This happened because we put so many GHG in the air.

It works, and without wrecking havoc on the overall system.

Europe is the one that initiated the sulfur reductions. With the additional dimming data now available, they reviewed it to determine how much damage had been caused. The conclusion? The benefits of reducing sulfur actually outweigh the damage of unmasked warming. The plan for further reductions was upheld.

If we mask radiative forcing, we don't want to be doing it with sulfur. That leads to acid rain, ocean acidification, and asthma and other diseases. CaCO3 is a candidate. The long-term consequences of any candidate is unknown. Except that we know that the less sulfur raining down on us and the fish in general, the better.

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[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] bentropy@feddit.de 26 points 2 years ago (7 children)

It is totally terrifying but also very strange to read about the record heat everywhere while we here in Germany had probably the coldest July in a decade. We had 16C where we should have had 30C. And we had rain, a lot of rain.

Still, I'm terrified.

[–] psud@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

The world average temperature is up. Locally this puts more energy in weather

Taller storms, bigger hail, more cyclones/typhoons/hurricanes earlier and later in the season

[–] billstickers@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago

Apparently the average is up in Germany, you just haven’t had any extremes this year.

https://twitter.com/rarohde/status/1688486834890854401?s=46&amp;t=041FqqqpppFjW7CoNV9wDw

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[–] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago

... also the coolest 36 days of summer of the rest of our life

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Some didn't survive & that's a problem.

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[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Phoenix just broke its record for consecutive days over 110° at 31, previous record was half that...

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[–] Odd_so_Star_so_Odd@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What the Fossil Fuel Industry Doesn't Want You To Know | Al Gore | TED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZC6da4mco

Oil barrons merely see global warming as yet another catastrophe to take advantage of for power and profit, they will have their companies pump oil til there's not a single drop left to pump anywhere, using every excuse they can find to keep pumping and polluting while evading taxes and regulation as much as possible. They are evil scum and belong in jail for their lies and behavior.

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[–] potopato@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

43 ºC in my town today. Now we are at 32 ºC and is 23:00.

This is hell.

[–] gornar@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

In Maui, some of us didn't survive :(

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What do we win? I hope someone makes a movie about us.

[–] brihuang95@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the movie 2012 comes to mind for whatever reason lol

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

'Don' t look up' it's a depressing documentary dressed up as a dark comedy focusing on the incapacity of competence to sway the tide of general ignorance.

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[–] SmoothSurfer@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Actually, some of us didnt

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[–] FleetingTit@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meanwhile in germany: 13°C and endless rain.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

Extremes getting more extreme.

[–] cazsiel@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

What's this "we survived?" dies

[–] Four_lights77@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Relevant vlogbrothers video about why this particular summer is hotter.

https://youtu.be/dk8pwE3IByg

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[–] elghoto@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tomorrow is going to be 37

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[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Hottest so far.

[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isolated islands catching on fire because it's so goddamn hot doesn't feel like surviving.

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