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[–] capital@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Only if the apartment has very strict noise and smoking rules that are actually enforced.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Noise separation is pretty easy to design into a building. Air separation is possible but would require design that no one bothers with, as far as I know.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Noise separation is pretty easy to design into a building.

I wonder why more don't do it then.

I would be very interested (and I assume I'm not the only one) in a condo + association which advertises strong noise controls. HOA's always seem to concentrate on the wrong things IMO.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago

It's slightly more expensive, and most developers are trying to build the cheapest thing they can sell. A good number of places have put in noise separation into their building code though, so depending on where you live any new place will be dead quiet.

In a wood-frame building, for example, you increase the thickness of the unit-to-unit walls by a few inches and leave a small air-gap between two layers of insulation. The hard-soft-air-soft-hard boundary makes for a very difficult path for sound to travel through. You have to purpose-build the walls if you want maximum noise isolation, because the studs have to be staggered so they don't bridge the gap and transmit the sound through your defenses.

[–] TauriWarrior@aussie.zone 6 points 5 months ago

When we lived in an apartment someone set off the fire alarm several times a week, sometimes at 3am which is a shitty way and time to awaken. Never want to live in one again

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Had an apartment. Guy's girlfriend upstairs smoked. His apartment caught on fire when she fell asleep smoking in bed. Guess where the water goes when the fire department put out the fire. And that's not just water, it's water mixed with toxic soot. No more apartment.

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

Really good framing of it

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How about quadplexes? 50% of island used.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

As long as I can live in a hollow under a tree far away from the apartment building, okay.

But if not then I’ll just walk into the ocean because that’s still too damn many people.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Everyone is going to need to agree on a noise level

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I wish apartments in major metropolitan areas had green space like this. If I could have just enough of a yard for my dog and a small vegetable garden I'd happily live in an apartment.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago

Take a look at the UK on Google Maps.

Pretty green, right? Plenty of space to expand those towns and cities.

Zoom in. It's pretty much all farmland. There's precious little nature in that.

Density isn't going to save nature. Having fewer people and sustainable farming will save nature. Density is useful for having things like efficient public transport, and reducing the need to have a car. It also localises noise, and I feel we don't value quiet enough.

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