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Jill Stein Won’t Stop. No Matter Who Asks. (www.nytimes.com)
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While Ms. Stein condemns both “zombie political parties” as tools of Wall Street and war profiteers, her campaign has focused largely on hammering Ms. Harris, blaming the White House she serves for relentless violence in Gaza and Lebanon.

And Democrats, as never before, are focused on Ms. Stein.

The party has prepared a negative ad blitz for the election’s final weeks, its first-such effort ever directed at a third-party candidate. Fearful that Ms. Stein might divert critical votes in places like Michigan, Democrats are also pressing their case on billboards plastered recently across swing states:

“Jill Stein Helped Trump Once. Don’t Let Her Do It Again.”

She dismisses the “spoiler mythology” that has come to define her mainstream identity, noting — accurately enough — that some of her supporters would never back Ms. Harris anyway.

She says that Democrats would do well to look inward, disputing that she bears any responsibility for Mr. Trump’s fortunes, then or now.

“Those conversations never go anywhere,” Ms. Stein, 74, said in a wide-ranging interview.

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[–] Volkditty@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

No one ever asked her to start, either.

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

Maybe not start but I'm sure there're groups that have encouraged her to keep running over the years. Eyes picture of her at dinner with Putin, other Russians and Flynn who Trump pardoned. Though I'm sure there're good reasons for her to be in that picture that aren't shady...I expect a lottery win about the time they make sense.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (5 children)

What even is her endgame?

[–] FancyManacles@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (17 children)

To draw votes away from the Democratic party nominee at the behest of her Russian donors. NBC News Link about the infamous dinner.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I know, but what is she getting out of it?

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Money and a chance for power, obviously.

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[–] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Attention. Whether or not you agree with her, getting paid to cruise around the country telling people what your political views are is a pretty sweet gig

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

cruise

It sounds soul-crushingly exhausting

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[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My take:

To demonstrate that there is a more leftist population in the US public than is regularly recognized and shift the entire discussion in that direction.

To create a strong alternative to the major pro-corporate parties that is more in line with the rest of the liberal parties around the world.

To oppose the highly organized far right.

No, I won't vote for her this year. But I can appreciate the above goals.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

To create a strong alternative to the major pro-corporate parties that is more in line with the rest of the liberal parties around the world.

This is not how you do this. You don't disappear and pop up for a few months every four years. That is not how a legitimate political party operates.

She clearly does not give a shit about making the Green Party a legitimate alternative.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

FYI the green party is now openly admitting that their goal is to prevent Kamala Harris from winning the presidency.

The election has already started. Absentee ballots have been sent. We need to catch up rapidly. We need everyone here to get active. We need to be clear about what our goals are. We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic, we could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan. And the polls show that most likely Harris cannot win the election without Michigan.

https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/10/harris-vs-trump-spoiler-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud.html

GREEN = Getting Republicans Elected Every November

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago

To beat the duopoly

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

To not have the kompromat that Putin is holding over her be released publicly?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is an interesting take

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have no evidence to support it, besides her ties to the Kremlin that have already been widely reported on (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jill+stein+russia).

GREEN Party = Getting Republicans Elected Every November

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (15 children)

I have no evidence to support it

WOW YOU DON'T SAY

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[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 4 months ago

If first past the post was banned, this wouldn't be a problem

but it isn't so fuck her.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

I dunno about this shit I'm probably just voting PSL.

[–] donescobar@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I’m tired of hearing about Shit Stein every 4 years

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