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It's alright (files.catbox.moe)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Blaze@sopuli.xyz to c/linguistics_humor@sh.itjust.works

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Still has gender, fuck gendered languages.

[–] RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Imagine not knowing the gender of an inanimate object at first sight, couldn't be me

And if you really need gender neutralness...

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Just check whether it has a dick.

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I can offer you Esperanto. No inherent gender but they got cases. And also gendered endings for people words.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Tagalog is a lot closer, the only gendered words are Spanish loan words (except maybe mom/dad), because of course they are.

Pronouns:

he/she - siya
his/her - niya

Relations (add "na lalaki" for boys, or "na babae" for girls) :

son/daughter - anak
brother/sister - kapatid
grandson/granddaughter - apo

In English, I ask how many brothers and sisters someone has, but in Tagalog I just ask how many siblings they are. Ilan (how many) kayong (are you) magkakapatid (siblings as a group)? They can give a simple answer, or specify boys and girls, it's great! Asking about boys/girls takes too long, so nobody bothers.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Esperanto still has those weird -in- and -iĉ- suffixes. They aren't a grammatical gender system, but... come on.

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I kind of like them but I just wish the "base" was neuter e.g. avo would be grandparent, then avino could stay grandmother and something else could be grandfather. Overall I think the modularity is neat

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

i.e. optional suffixes to highlight social gender, but the default was neuter? I'd like it better than the current system, but I think that the suffixes aren't even necessary - if you need to specify the gender, you can simply plop some additional word and call it a day.

That's a piece of criticism in retrospect though. Social awareness of gender issues was way lower in Zamenhof's times than now, not really blaming him.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago

Man picking a fight with half the world. Also what do you mean gendered languages? All languages are obviously female.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 12 points 2 months ago

Seven - there's a locative nobody remembers, because it's only used for small islands, cities, and for "rus" (locative ruri - in the countryside). Or four if you're one of those sick fucks who study Late Latin (NOM/ACC/GEN/ABL).

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Aren’t there technically five cases, just they’re only expressed through pronouns (like the accusative in English)?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

allright.

Spelling gaffe or dropped space? I don't get this partof the joke.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Fixed!

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

All except for the accusative because why would you keep the nominative when you can also keep the accusative