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Very, Very Few People Are Falling Down the YouTube Rabbit Hole | The site’s crackdown on radicalization seems to have worked. But the world will never know what was happening before that::The site’s crackdown on radicalization seems to have worked. But the world will never know what was happening before that.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 150 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Bro people were eating tidepods and we saw a resurgence of nazism and white nationlism.

I think we at least know the effects of what was happening before.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Could we convince the Nazis to eat the tide pods?

[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

They are a famously suggestible lot

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Just get 4chan to convince the imbeciles that it's a white supremacist symbol like they did with the okay sign.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If a bunch of "ironic" racists start using a symbol as a "joke" and one of them flashes it after murdering 50 people because of their religion, then it's officially a hate symbol.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You got that turned around. 4chan convinced politicians/pundits the ok symbol was white supremacist. Honestly, it worked, but they should have picked the shocker. Would have actually been funny.

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[–] tmsqhazdzp@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

…something something… making your whites whiter… they’ll get the message they’re after

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

apparently there weren't really any people eating tide pods

[–] handhookcardoor@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I’m pretty sure more people did it after it blew up in the ‘news’ than ever did it before that point.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 137 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Recently watched a documentary called 'the YouTube effect' by Alex Winter (bill of bill and ted) which goes into how YouTube was essential in the current global state of radicalized individuals.

In the earlyish days of the internet (late 1990s / early 00s) I fell deep down the rabbit hole of right wing hate and conspiracy theories..

One subject of the doc explains his descent. It is almost exactly mine. Only these days it is hyper stimulated, laser targeted, data driven, psychological warfare, wrapped in polished, billionaire backed campaigns.

It comes at you from wherever you are.

Crypto bros. Health/hydro bros. incel bros. Christian bros. Muslim bros. Rogan bros. Peterson bros. Elon bros. Tech bros. Anon bros. etc.

By the time a lot of people realize what's happened, if ever, they're already in too deep.

[–] mdm_@lemmy.ca 56 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Crypto bros. Health/hydro bros. incel bros. Christian bros. Muslim bros. Rogan bros. Peterson bros. Elon bros. Tech bros. Anon bros. etc.

Hmm I'm sensing a theme here...

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think I fell in the other YouTube rabbit hole? My recs are all progressive podcasters, history video essays, and YouTube creator podcasts that complain about YouTube?

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mines basically all nerd shit like physics, ham radio, robotics. And also call me kris.

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[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[–] nyoooom@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Loneliness, lack of purpose, which then gets fulfilled by a relatively small community driven by defending and idea, ideology and/or an individual.

[–] Khotetsu@lib.lgbt 19 points 2 years ago

Yup, it's the same old song of fascists and cultists.

"Are you lonely, sad, angry, or just generally dissatisfied with your life? Have you tried blaming your problems on a minority with less power in society than yourself? Act now, and I'll throw in a second minority, free!*"

*Just pay shipping and handling.

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[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Leftists aren’t immune. My YouTube has a lot of Vaush, Hasan, Sam Seder, etc.

Though I do also get Patrick Bet David and PragerU thrown in too, I think because I can’t help but watch for a window into their line of thinking.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 8 points 2 years ago

It is not quite the same. It recommends things you watch. If you watch Hasan you tend to get more Hasan stuff but only on rare occasions do you get Vaush stuff.

Back in the day you could watch one non political thunderfoot about some scam and the recommendations would be a rouges gallery of anti-sjws with no other recommendations.

Now you can get radicalized because you want to be and it's a nice saunter down the hill. Then it was a sheer cliff you could accidentally fall into. If you didn't experience it you can't really imagine how stupid it was.

[–] ST5000@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

There's a recent documentary movie about that called Bros I suggest you check it out.

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[–] MacGuffin94@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I like to watch videos of media critiques. Somehow all the ones that I keep getting recommended are anti woke d bags that blame every bad movie choice on the company/producer/director/etc going woke. I've pretty much had to stop watching those types of videos and try to rebalance the algorithm by watching literally anything that seems remotely left leaning. It's been 2 months and it's barely better.

[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Yeah a lot of channels used to be actual discussion now it's all culture war bs.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We need more liberal critical thinking bros.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 103 points 2 years ago (17 children)

Weird. Youtube keeps recommending right wing videos even though I've purged them from my watch history and always selected Not Interested. It got to the point that I installed a 3rd party channel blocker.

I don't even watch too many left leaning political videos and even those are just tangentially political.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

i think if you like economics or fast cars you will also get radical right wing talk videos. if you like guns it's even worse.

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[–] Kuya@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I've been watching tutorials on jump ropes and kickboxing. I do watch YouTube shorts, but lately I'm being shown Andrew Tate stuff. I didn't skip it quick enough, now 10% of the things I see are right leaning bot created contents. Slowly gun related, self defense, and Minecraft are taking over my YouTube shorts.

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago

Kickboxing to Andrew Tate is unfortunately a short jump for the algorithm to make, I guess

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I see 3 times the same headline. õ.Ô

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 8 points 2 years ago

Now it's 4. They multiply!

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I have read it 3 times and still didn't understood what it is about.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Weirdly, YouTube's algo propelled me down the Pinko-commie anarcho-socialist boy-we-suck-at-democracy rabbit hole. I was an avid BreadTuber long before I ever heard the name BreadTube.

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[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I keep getting 'rescue' animal videos which involve people purposely putting puppies and kittens in destressing situations so they can 'save them' its sick and no matter how often i block and report those videos they re-appear next month. I also get alot of 'police shooting people' videos which i also try to block

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All my YouTube recommendations went downhill about 3 years ago. I am bombarded by rightwing Christian stuff no matter how many times I flag and complain.

[–] megalodon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm bombarded by Joe Rogan stuff. I keep blocking the channels but there is an endless stream of them

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[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

because tiktok replaced yotube in that regard

[–] qwamqwamqwam@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Wait what? Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but this is what I got out of the article:

“We had anecdotes and preliminary evidence of a phenomenon. A robust scientific study showed no evidence of said phenomenon. Therefore, the phenomenon was previously real but has now stopped.”

That seems like really, really bad science. Or at least, really really bad science reporting. Like, if anecdotes are all it takes, here’s one from just a few weeks ago.

I left some Andrew Tate-esque stuff running overnight by accident and ended up having to delete my watch history to get my homepage back to how it was before.

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[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Now if we could just purge this website of HexBear morons.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 years ago

We are not on a website. Therefore, we have a better solution than the top-down approach that Youtube uses.

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Can always go to one of the many instances that defederated them. Not like there's account-wide upvote points to lose or anything. (genuine suggestion)

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 years ago

If they're using an app, they should check if their app supports blocking instances

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago

There are many instances that have defederated them that you could join. Or if you're really serious you could host your own.

[–] skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Who did these stats, I'm getting more right wing proganda than ever. Also Facebook is just as bad as ever. I really like stuff like the fediverse since I can control my feed.

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