Aceticon

That's such an interesting statement.

Irrelevant for my post, since I lived in Britain for over a decade, but interesting.

Thank you for sharing that tidbit about yourself.

The UK is an incredibly Classist society with a long-running "know your place" kind of mindset and very low Social Mobility for an European nation - people very much are defined by their class (all the way to ther being a very specific, non-regional, English language accent for the upper class) and one's social class is very much inherited.

The 60s and the 70s were the peak point for the result of the post War (that being WWII) increase in social mobility in Britain with lots of Working Class lads and lasses making it big in, amongst others, the arts (and you see it not just in Comedy but also Acting more in general and especially in Music were almost every great British star from that age had working class origins).

All this has in the meanwhile being reversed, hence once again almost all modern British artists are the sons and daughters of the upper-middle and upper classes.

During that golden period the massive mix of people from all origins in the arts created all kind of original and "not knowing your place" art expressions, and I believe the Money Pythons are one of those.

They discovered Porn when they got to Russia and have been chronically exhausted ever since...

It's a corrupt system.

It's only weird if you believe the prime function of the police is to protect everybody.

If you think the prime function of the police is to protect the rich and their assets, these action of theirs make perfects sense as do many other actions (such as prioritizing fighting crime against property over stopping violence)

This isn't a "Is killing a person that insulted you right or wrong?" moral conundrum, it's a "If you could kill Hitler after he had started exterminating people, would that be right or wrong?" moral conundrum.

Most people who would say "it's the wrong thing to do" for the first one would say "it's the right thing to do" for the second.

Mind you, the really right thing to do on the situation with this CEO would have been for the State to do its fucking job and protect the people from mass murderers like him, but it refuse to do so, hence here we are in a bad situation.

Well, in the total picture the best option of all would be Justice System which is Just and hence stop people causing massive numbers of deaths for profit, which is not what we have (especially in the US) and is even getting worse.

Ultimately all Just venues (I was going to say "non-violent", but "lawful" violence is still "violence", so even in a Just system, Force would still be used on the ones profiting from mass deaths) seem to have been closed in the last couple of decades.

The more options get closed, the more people will only see as options to either meekly accept the death of a loved one (or oneself) due to the actions of the people leading Health Insurance companies or vigilante vengeance, since the State has over the years removed itself from enacting Justice against the wealthiest in society, which would've been the best option of all (not least because it prevents the deaths of both the victims of guys like this CEO and of guys like the CEO)

Indeed, dichotomies presented in arguments are more often than not false, but sometimes they're true.

I guess we're reaching a stage were most people are both aware of the harm those people do and believe Ju$tice will never do anything about it, quit the opposite.

In summary: Neoliberalism.

It's especially entertaining with a Dutch accent rather than a Flemish one, as that "g" in "wagen" is said in a very unusual way compared to pretty much all other European languages and accents.

Mind you, it's strangely pleasant to say it that way for me as a non-native, and having picked up the local version of "God damn it" (which has a similar sounding "g") as an expletive when I lived there, now - almost 2 decades later - it still just comes out in its own when I'm pissed at something.

"We've stopped selling paper due to the danger of paper-cuts for people. We will continue selling firearms and ammo."

Unlike the politicians and fatcats so loudly celebrated when they lived and so mourned when they died, by the Media, George Carlin was one of the truly great people of the second half of the XX century.