ClamDrinker

It should definitely be marked as NSFW, but different cultures look VERY differently to death, and to pet death as well. It should be marked for that reason, but otherwise the ones I've seen are very similar to a human open casket funeral / viewing.

People go to these places to show it because people with the same kind of pets can often relate better than other people. And if it gets upvotes I doubt many people there find it as objectionable.

Ik ben in princiepe het helemaal met je eens dat Oekraïne helpen ook in ons belang is, en dat we militaire steun niet uit moeten sluiten. Maar als het over levens gaat is het altijd gevoelig.

Er is ook een echt verschil tussen iemand die professioneel soldaat is en de gewone populatie, zonder de juiste training ben je zeer snel kannonnenvoer, en da's natuurlijk zonde. En zeker als je niet fysiek fit genoeg bent (zoals genoeg Nederlanders) dan is er denk ik meer waarde in het ondersteunen van Oekraïne vanuit productie van wapens, intelligentie, communicatie, of maatschappelijke inzet voor het doel.

Ik denk inderdaad dat voor alle doelen om je leven voor op te offeren, defensie tegen een aggressor ergens bovenaan staat, zeker als degene voor wie je vecht zelf mee vecht en niet zelf gevlucht is (In tegenoverstelling tot Poetin die z'n mensen naar de slacht stuurt vanuit z'n kasteel of whatever)

Ik zou zeker de miltaire steun aanmoedigen, maar ik heb ook terughoudendheid omdat het gaat over de grootste opoffering die je kunt vragen van mensen, en zeker omdat ik het mezelf niet zie (kunnen) doen.

It's hard not to see exactly what the US under Trump is doing with these kinds of hostile actions lately. They're trying to create a situation where Europe and/or others can only reasonably respond back with actions they can brand as hostile in return (That, or bend the knee), so they can play the victim and weaponize that as propaganda to undermine the peaceful and friendly relationships between the common people, a foundation of keeping large scale peace since WW2. Disgusting and utterly sinister behavior. We must resist being played like that and fight back against that urge while remaining defiant of this circus.

Also happens if the post coincidentally shows up in all and some particularly anti AI people see it, even when it's isolated in a designated community like this one.

That's pretty metal

Thanks for clarifying. I get your point, I honestly dont doubt someone or a group with such opinions exists out there, I just dont think it represents anywhere near a critical mass.

Sadly, when there's big money to be made such as for blockbusters, even some human work before AI was already pretty 'sanitized' or 'toned down' in terms of human creativity, as it must be as uncontroversial and mainstream appealing as possible. So yes if AI got good enough it would definitely be used by some of those companies.

However, I dont see any path for current AI technology to get there without at least 1 or 2 breakthrough similar to the advent of current AI technology.

I also dont think it will replace anything beyond the works of companies with great profit incentive. We have a massive amount of communities where human creativity is central in all shapes and forms, producing works that arent appealing to everyone, but to the people it resonates with, it is so uniquely special that its irreplaceable. This kind of art thrives on it's human creativity rather than it's ability to make money. The human desire to produce and consume art that resonates with them is so strong it wont go anywhere as long as people have the time and ability to produce it.

Rest assured, there is basically no talk of replacing anyone with AI in my corner of the creative industry.

Should the day come that AI truly becomes that good it can compete with human creativity, its likely that AI will have become far more human in terms of how it creates art, and would start exhibiting the same tendencies to share human experiences and memories. Then the difference will start to fade and indeed we might go the way of the horses, but such a scenario is essentially sci-fi right now - we may never even get close and art might have made many radical shifts before we get there. And like the camera didnt kill hand painted portraits, there will still be a place for human creativity, just less.

But so long as the incentive is there, it might eventually happen. And so we should be ready to safeguard creativity in some manner along the way. But currently the most effective ways of doing so entail mostly to curb our capitalistic society, and not at the technology. Because doing so could in the worst case lock creatives out from the technology and start a race for the capability to keep up, and large companies would surely win out if we let them.

They have more means of doing things and more data than smaller creators, and AI does seem to pull some of that power back to smaller creators, hence why even thought it might seem big companies are all pro AI, dont be surprised if they are totally fine taking a powerful tool away so they can take it just for themselves.

I'm someone who talks about AI a lot on lemmy, people might call me pro AI although I consider myself to be neither pro nor anti, but admittedly, optimistic about AI in general. I work with people in the creative industry, artists, writers, designers, you name it.

As others have mentioned already, your question to my knowledge does not reflect most people's view on AI neither online and even less so in real life. And I talk and participate in communities that are overwhelmingly pro AI. The "AI bros" you mention sound like caricatures to me.

There are some who have become bitter by lies and misinformation spread about AI that are intentionally hateful as a kind of reverse gotcha, but thats about it. You have those on the anti AI side as well for different reasons.

I dont consider AI to be anywhere close to being a threat to the industry, other than indirectly through the forces of capitalism and mismanagement. Your question indeed seems very insane to me. Most people that use and talk about AI to me seem more interested in using it to make new creative works, or enhance existing works to greater depth in the same time. Creative people are human too and have limited time, and often their time is already cut short by deadlines and their work has been systematically undervalued even before AI.

AI as it currently stands on its own simply has no feeling of direction. Without much effort you can get very pretty, elegant, interesting, but ultimately meaningless things from it. This cannot replace anyone, because such content while intriguing doesnt capture attention for long. It also cannot do complex tasks such as discussing with stakeholders or remaining consistent across work and feedback.

With a creative person at the wheel of the AI though, something special can happen. It can give AI the direction it needs to bring back that meaning.

This is a perspective a lot of people miss, since they only see AI as ChatGPT or Midjourney, not realizing that these are proprietary (not open source) front ends to the technology that essentially hide all the controls and options the technology has, because these things are essentially a new craft on their own and to this day very little people are even in the progress of mastering them.

Everyone knows about prompts, but you can do much more than that depending on the model. Some image models allow you to provide your own input image, and even additional images that control aspects of the image like depth, layout, outlines. And text models allow you to pack a ton of pre existing data that completely guide what it will output next, as well as provide control over the internal math that decides how it comes to its guess for the next word.

Without a creative and inventive person behind the wheel, you get generic AI material we all know. And with such a person, you get material at times indistinguishable from normal material. These people are already plentiful in the creative industry, and they are not going anywhere, and new people that meet this criteria are always welcome. Art is for everyone, and especially those who are driven.

Really the only threat to the creative industry in regards to AI is that some wish to bully and coerce those who use the technology into submission and force them to reject it, and even avoid considering it altogether like dogma. This creates a submissive group that will never learn how to operate AI models. Should AI ever become neccesary to work in the creative industry (it currently doesnt look like it) these people will be absolutely decimated by the ones that kept an open mind, and more importantly, the youth of tomorrow that always is more open to new technologies. This is a story of the ages whenever new technology comes around, as it never treats those that reject it kindly, if it sticks around.

The loom and the Luddites, cars and horses, cameras and painters, mine workers and digging machines, human calculators and mechanical calculators, the list goes on.

So no, being pro AI doesnt neccesarily mean you are participating in the downfall of the creative industry. Neither does being anti AI. But spreading falsehoods and stifling healthy discussion, that can kill any industry except those built on dishonesty.

While I agree that the AI they will implement will likely not be very effective, it doesn't have to be to cause massive human suffering. Eg. Google incorrectly marking exposed photos of your kid for your doctor as CSAM. There's also no guarantee that once these companies finally wake the fuck up (If they're not already completely aware what they're doing is messed up) that they will close these holes they're punching, and that could mean they could replace AI with a mass surveillance tool at any point without you knowing. Nobody should be a fan of this.

Stocks for what? AI? I can't have stocks for a technology. I could get stocks in companies that use AI, but the only ones that are on the stock market I'd rather die than support a single penny to since they abuse the technology (and technology in general). But they are not the only ones using the technology. I'm not really a fan of stocks to begin with, profit focused companies are a plague in my opinion.

Seems a bit strange to blame AI for this. Meta has always been garbage and using technology to it's worst effects.

While I'm not particularly fond of using AI for any kind of truthful information, this post reeks of the classic "Quit having fun!" meme. Your value judgement of AI is no more valid than anyone elses, and honestly in my opinion, very misdirected and anger fueled.

It's in everyone's best interest for AI content to be honestly declared. You are almost certainly already consuming AI content from somewhere without knowing it because angry hate mobs have conditioned people to just lie and obfuscate their AI usage to avoid being the target of hate. And if not, you will eventually due to the power of the technology, as the entire creative industry is already silently integrating it, as everyone with an open mind knows, but the benefit of honesty towards closed minded angry people is none, and that situation is a shame.

Good AI usage is impossible to detect, and we should encourage honesty in regards to it.