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Alkanes, from the possible breakdown of fatty-acids, in distant past..

To me, the question then becomes .. is there any nonbiological-method for Mars to have produced those molecules?

IF so, THEN .. probably that's how they got there..

but without knowing the answer to that question..

it isn't decided, is it?

https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Kinds-Smart-Identifying-Intelligences/dp/0452281377/

identified many years ago that our definition of "intelligence" is far-too-narrow, & anybody who's read it, can understand why I say the evidence is thiat the orginal definition of "intelligence" was intended to lock-out all kinds of intelligence that male academics were not good at..

( 1 example, right from that book, is .. it usually is possible to find 1 girl in a grade-school-class who can identify who's friends with whom, who's enemies with whom, and why, having all that stuff mapped-out in her head..

I'm autistic.

I can't even manage to be anybody's present-friend, more than a few minutes per year?

Been a few years since I had friends..

What any such girl is demonstrating absolutely is an intelligence!

Denigrated by male "authorities", of course, as is to be expected..

Gender-prejudice taints all our world, doesn't it?

Lipman's "That's what SHE said!" backs this..

https://www.amazon.com/Thats-What-She-Said-Together-ebook/dp/B0716GZT1P/ )

( obviously, these aren't "affiliate" links )

Another item, though, music isn't an intelligence, it is a whole set of intelligences:

• Rhythm
• Harmony
• Melody
• Improv/Jazz
• Composition
• Polyrhythm..

& I rather suspect that ALL intelligences are fractal, like that..

Nick Lane's Royal Institution Talk, on yt, also indicates that the "atom" of awareness may be mitochondria ( since jamming them jams our awareness, as the anaesthetic xenon, iirc, demonstrates )

https://nick-lane.net/media/how-the-krebs-cycle-powers-life-and-death/

Gottman published, many years ago, that contempt is the primary not-survivable factor in a relationship.

So, this is "rediscovering the wheel", then..

Researchers Logan, King, & Fischer-Wright, discovered that there are 5 social-process levels ( they misidentify as "stages", but caterpillar-moth is stages, & reversible modes are not irreversible, as stages are ),, & that conspiricism is produced in level2.

They published a popular book, in order to get the core of their research into the understanding of people in organizations, where it could do the most good.

• Level5 - LIVING IS SELF-INHERENTLY AWESOME!!

• Level4 - WE are awesome, THEY are what we are competing against.

• Level3 - Narcissism-culture. Doctors are the exemplars of it. It took me until my mid-50's to realize that raised-by-medical-professionals syndrome IS raised-by-narcissists syndrome, even though I'd read a book identifying the entire pattern of damage in the children of such, back in the 1980's ( sometimes I'm not quick ). Dad was a medical-researcher & a doctor. That insight is spot on. You want 2 independent proofs? 1. dress professionally well, a quality suit, & walk into any 4 hospitals ( averaging the results ), & count the percentage of lower-level people, including cleaning-staff, who are upright & meeting your gaze as equally-valid humans. None is likely to be the percentage: their validity has been disallowed/negated by medical-culture. 2. record video in clinics/hospitals, in the hallways, of people interacting, leaving-out any audio: video-only, & record it so it plays-back in slow-motion. When you watch it in slow-motion, because your unconscious won't be automatically-hiding the class-establishing bodylanguage, due to the wrong-speed, you should be able to see the narcissism body-language screaming from doctors. The 1st time I became conscious of it, it was stunning, and my having never seen it, in decades, .. shaming.

• Level2 - Subject-to-narcissism's-dominion culture. Conspiricism breeds in this level.

• Level1 - gangs/inmates/nihilism culture. Mass shootings. Manufactured into inmates, manufactured into gang-members, etc. This has the motivation & the leverage to butcher the whole of the rest. Notice that there were over 600 mass-shootings in the US in 2023, and that homelessness is skyrocketing, simultaneously.. That isn't "mere coincidence". Given the political-dominion "solutions" being enacted there, the percentage of the population in Level1 is going to be significantly increasing, with all the consequences of that.

Those who are helplessly subjugated beneath narcissism's dominion, are likely to become conspiricist, exactly as Logan, King, & Fischer-Wright identified.

Actually, it's natural.

IF prohibited from being validly-human, THEN become some other kind of validity, ( "displacement" is it called, in psychology? ), and being "the conspiricist who gets information 1st" is a kind of validity that can exist in the level beneath narcissism's dominion.

Since validity's a basic & fundamental unconscious-mind need, .. this is going to happen.

Consistently.

"access through your institutions"..

So, I'm blocked from reading it.

EDIT: Found an alternative, I think:

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/682762

No matter.

1. Wasp-researchers in the Americas ( don't remember if central or south, sorry ) discovered that altruism is generalized mothering.

IF there isn't much need for mothering in this nest, THEN go provide mothering in other nests, even-though wasps are .. aggressively competitive critters according to them.

This isn't the version I'd read before, but it's the same research:

https://www.bristol.ac.uk/news/2021/february/tropical-wasps.html

That is 1 evidence-based-science identifying altruism's root.

2. AwakeSoulism/Buddhism has been insisting that altruism is generalized mothering for 25 consecutive centuries, and the phrase "all our kind mothers" meaning all other Souls/Continuums who're lavishing lessons on us, is the current rendition of that ( though Buddhism's people often forget to differentiate between the local person/mind vs the eternal Continuum that currently is trapped in an individual-life/incarnation )

3. In the Abrahamic religions, they have a story in Genesis, where women "ate of the fruit of the Knowledge of Good & Evil", which means Morality, and having eaten Morality, they shared it with men.

Mothering the root of it, again.

Of course, religious-men twisted the text to mean that women were "guilty" of "sin" and used that to justify mysogyny for many many millenia, but what should one expect of male-supremacism, when its too-fragile ego feels threatened?

History, Western, Eastern, doesn't suggest that we should expect honest integrity of it, obviously.

( the literally millions of women who were forced to die in India due to that male-supremacism, iirc 1 census pegged it at 30,000,000-ish missing women, and that number wouldn't have gone down recently..

the selective-abortion-of-female-foetuses/babies, in order to protect male-supremacism, including the Chinese woman who died while aborting her 4th or 6th or something daughter, because her husband wanted a son to be their only or 1stborn child..

it isn't just China that selectively exterminates girl-lives, the West shows the same thing, & as a Jewess pointed-out, nobody in Jewish culture celebrates the birth of a girl: only boys.

The Catholic inquisition's holocausting of women..

Hatred of female-lives & female-validity seems to be a deep current throughout humankind's diverse cultures, for millenia. )

3 different views into ancient psychology, and all-3 identify mothering as being the root of altruism..

That seems a trend..

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ALL power-minorities, women, Indigenous, battered people, homeless people, autistics, the same is true.

Power-majority is self-centered, aka narcissistic.

That is the default.

"majority RULE" means minority over-ruled/bullied, inherently.

Look at how a story in the Abrahamic religions scripture, on how women ate "the fruit of the knowledge of Good & Evil" which means they ate Morality .. got turned, by the power-majority into hating-on women for their "sin".

Women ( mothering ) ate of morality & shared it with men.

Period.

Researchers studying wasps in the Americas discovered that altruism is generalized-mothering, Buddhism perceived the same underlying-principle 25 consecutive centuries ago, the correct reading of that story in Genesis stated so, but the male-supremacism deformed the meaning until bullying women became religious-law for .. millenia..

Many years ago, in the 1990's, there were the Internet FAQs.

The Feminism FAQ of that time identified that there was a category-difference between early White feminists & early Black feminists:

White feminists wanted to be included in the White privilege that males had. They wanted their half of White entitlement.

Black feminists, being bullied both for being women & for being Black, wanted something completely different: they wanted the abuse to be forced to unexist.

That is evidence ( my life corroborates it ) that our unconscious, when bullied in 1 dimension, wants to be included in the power-majority group, but when bullied in 2+ dimensions ( each individual may have a different threshold ), then the underlying problem with bullying-itself is understood by one's unconscious, and it becomes removing bullying's rule that one's unconscious understands to be the problem.

It isn't leaving women, Indiginous people, homeless people, etc, fucked-over, while fixing it for 1 subgroup, that is going to make humankind viable, it is dismantling abuse-archy for all that can.

IF we earn it.

in time.

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The commenter who identified that we're now able to eliminate radiowave-broadcast communications, via lasers ( & fiberoptics, etc ), is spot-on.

There is another angle, though.

Imagine a simplified-model of civilization...

a batch of 7 newborn-babies, instead of hundreds of genetically-distinct populations in Africa...

those 7 babies live in "eden".

they learn that they can consume everything they want, that doesn't harm them.

they learn that they have to be somewhat self-moderating, because others fight them when one crowds the other, too much.

etc.

they move away from each-other, & some lose their skin-pigment, others change it...

an empire forms, in-which industry is the rule ( the Roman empire ).

Now a momentum is set in-place, that is making the sequence of the Industrial-Revolutions inevitable...

at the time of the Roman Empire, the children are, say, 11yo.

at the time of the Industrial Revolutions, they are in puberty, their brains forced into chaos, & ALL sorts of new force-multiplying technologies landing in their hands...

So, what is The Great Filter?

What happens when it is unconscious-toddler-mind, or unconscious-adolescent-who-never-got-challenged, who has all the world-snuffing technologies that we now have, but who has the global-responsiblity-level of .. drunk & drugged narcissistic children...

Say you have 7 kids going into The Great Filter, representing the whole populations-sea of our world...

Say only 1 of them survives The Great Filter...

Are they going to be CAREFUL in what they do, technologically, from then on??

Obviously.

I don't expect more than about 1.5% of this planet's population to survive this century's TANTRUM/POGROM that has narcissism-roots, politics-roots, religion-roots, food-insecurity-roots ( like total collapse of the terrestrial & marine food-webs, later this century ), etc.

Will the remnant who survive this century, if any do, be as careless with technology as we currently are??

How could they be?

If The Great Filter is an automatic force-growing-up consequence of EVERY world-overwhelming-species, who mixes accommodated-immaturity with ecosphere-destroying technology, then whatever portion of worlds who reach The Great Filter have survivors of it, .. it'd be inherent in the survivors' experience that they have been made careful.

Same as you don't find incapable-of-self-discipline in career-military-officers, you don't find our murderous carelessness/ideological-rabies in any survivor of The Great Filter:

Universe automatically force-extinguishes populations who won't grow up, who gain the technological-leverage that we've gained.

So, silence depicts a lack-of-carelessness AND an absence-of-need to be throwing-away-energy through radiowave broadcast, both.

When combined, galactic silence makes much fundamental sense.

We're in our species' "puberty" stage, and haven't survived our force-growing-up Great Filter, yet.

If we do, well, then finding others who also did, will make sense.

If we won't, .. then our epitaph will be that we wouldn't grow-up, at ANY cost.

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THIS is what happens when you succeed in making an AI ( or Hoomin ) that can create MODERN KOANS.

You Bastard!!

: P

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