TheFogan

I mean, maybe a de-escalation, but also rife for it's own forms of abuse.

IE... someone wants to spread misinformation... they block anyone fact checking or disproving their nonsense.

Now I fully agree, the misinformation rabbitholes have diminishing returns the longer the thread and arguement goes on.

IE lets say

Misinformer, posts blatent lie.

Person1: Rebuts lie, Includes multiple credible sources for the rebuttle.

Misinformer: Claims all true sources are in a conspiracy or agenda.

Person1: argues back

At this point it's just wasting everyones time... but IMO the initial fact check is important for people approaching.

So in the lemmy method.

Person 1 can debunk the claim. Block the person... leave it up to others if they actually want to bother engaging etc...

Sounds to me like the threads method on the other hand.... Fake claimer can go... and either whack a mole block comments that disagree... or shut off discussion altogether leaving the claim unchecked. To me that seems a bigger problem. Fact is there's a lot of falsehoods that sound convincing to the general public, but are easilly disprovable with a bit of research, and IMO they need to be challanged where the claims are made.

I mean, I some reason get unreasonably annoyed by the idea that people tie the dog meme into the organization musk chose to use it for. Musks shitty plans... are musk related, blame paypal, or emerald buyers or something else... if the doge meme never existed we'd be dealing with the same shit... just under a different name.

Like the Nazi coopted a tiny puppy.

I mean... the last major nazi takeover co-opted a symbol of good fortune, that seems to go back 4000-12000 years.

whatever we post is public... you can't stop someone from seeing public things. (Even if it worked the way you would like, they could browse anonymously or on a different account to see it). Blocking makes it convenient for you (so you don't have to look at public things that you don't want to see).

obviously democrats, the point is the democrats are working to minimize, the better of their own... and prop up their worse members, and burry their best communicators.

The plan of democrats:

"Try to win the good billionares"

"throw trans people under the bus"

"shift further to the right"

"Focus on trumps moral character failings, don't let policy distract you"

"Make sure to keep the progressives quiet, we can't have the AOCs getting the jobs of life long do nothing democrats.

had the native american's been smart enough to build a wall across the ocean... none of this mess would have happened.

I can't find the original article, but a lot of places reported on it in 2013

https://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/06/apparently-mcdonalds-thinks-its-employees-have-swimming-pools-and-nannies/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/12/06/newser-mcdonalds-fast-food-protest/3890393/

https://www.nbcnews.com/businessmain/mcdonalds-gives-workers-advice-tipping-au-pairs-trainers-dog-walkers-2d11702467

I love this classic steven fry bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzfCtGFgRSk

In short he accidentally stumbled into a mormon tour, and they explained that in the afterlife you get together with all of your family members forever, he raises his hand and asks "but where do you go if you were good?"

I mean unless there's a primary, it's still the better vote. It's the hellhole we live in... We have to go with the guy who says he's going to do good things, then disappoints us and does less than half the good he said, and adds in some bad things.

Or we can go with the guy who says he's going to do horrific things... and then meets and exceeds all his promises.

In short zelensky didn't jump up and down at taking a deal so insanely over the top bad that literally would have been harsher than punishments they normally put on aggressors that lost in wars. (IE if I recall it was deemed even harsher than what was put on germany after WW1, which as we know is what set up germany's economic strife that brought ww2.

Secondly their own admission... Zelensky said he needed parlimentary approval to accept the deal. AKA this guy who's being accused of being a dictator by trumps whitehouse... wasn't going to decide he had the authority to sign a "Ukraine gives half of what we have to the US forever" in exchange the US that is currently lead by a guy who, has a long history of not keeping his half of bargains, will promise to protect them.

reminds me of when McDonnalds sent a newsletter to all their minimum wage employees on the best gifts to get their au pairs, and pool cleaners, and personal chefs.