freamon

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[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 1 points 11 months ago

Just posting to nag you about this: can !tails@lemmon.website be added as an exception to the automod?

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 3 points 11 months ago

Lemmy doesn't seem to get much recognition in the wider Fediverse - it tends to get bundled as part of 'other apps'. Mastodon is much bigger, so better integration with Lemmy probably gets deprioritised below their own issues and feature requests (e.g. I was reading today that Markdown support is often requested, but the base version still doesn't have it)

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don't think it's technically impossible - all the information that another site needs to properly interpret some activity is in the JSON that's sent. I get the sense that it might be unrealistic to expect Mastodon to make the necessary changes though. It seems more of a political issue than a technical one.

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 40 points 11 months ago (5 children)

It's partly an issue of keys. Every fediverse actor has a private key and a public key. When my instance sends this to fediverse@lemmy.world, it's signed by my private key, and lemmy.world uses my public key to verify it. When fediverse@lemmy.world sends this comment out, it uses it's own private key to sign it. It can't just re-transmit my comment, because it doesn't have my private key. All it can do is Announce that I've made the comment (and sign the Announce).

Mastodon treats Announces as Boosts, so every post/comment is interpreted as a thing that fediverse@lemmy.world has boosted, so you get all these un-connected posts appearing. I think it's mostly up to Mastodon to remedy.

It works better if a Mastodon actor posts into a Lemmy community, then you get the mix like you imagine. e.g.: https://mastodon.world/@Flash/112095241193510662 (this particular post was crowbarred into Lemmy via !tails@lemmon.website, but it would be the same if the author had done it.)

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 5 points 11 months ago (5 children)

No settings page (as far as I'm aware), but you can use the API to get everything (posts, comments, etc):

step 1: get login token -

curl --request POST \
     --url https://lemmy.ml/api/v3/user/login \
     --header 'accept: application/json' \
     --header 'content-type: application/json' \
     --data '
{
  "username_or_email": "2br02b",
  "password": "YOUR-PASSWORD"
}
'

step 2: use login token (big long string starting with 'ey') to get data -

curl --request GET \
     --url 'https://lemmy.ml/api/v3/user?username=2br02b&page=1' \
     --header 'accept: application/json' \
     --header 'authorization: Bearer YOUR-JWT'

Increment page number until you have everything. source: https://lemmy.readme.io/reference/get_user

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 2 points 11 months ago

Edited to account for blahaj updating to 0.19.3 ... hopefully that's the last big instance to change.

It's been about a week since sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world updated, so results from those instances will start appearing again soon.

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Voyager has a setting for "No subscribed in All/Local" that does this. It's better on than off, obviously, but it doesn't turn All or Local into some kind of goldmine.

I get the sense that, unless you're willing to do it yourself, feature requests for Lemmy don't have much chance of being realised.

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 6 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Wait, what? A user posts a thing to a server, and that thing isn't then duplicated to 50 other servers ... yeah, I don't see how that can work.

(I'm just kidding - your site looks neat.)

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 5 points 11 months ago

!quickanimalfacts@lemm.ee - yeah, go on then. subbed.

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 1 points 11 months ago

Oh, yeah, cross-posts are great - I think it's something we're all supposed to be doing. I wouldn't say anything usually - just thought this image might raise questions that the creator could perhaps answer.

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

(sorry to intrude). This has had a few cross-posts on Lemmy. The link that goes to !tails@lemmon.website is attributed to the author of the image, so you can reply to them via that community if you wish.

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

(sorry to intrude). This has had a few cross-posts on Lemmy. The link that goes to !tails@lemmon.website is attributed to the author of the image, so you can reply to them via that community if you wish.

 
 
 

Hi. Just looking at what lemmy.ca sends my server:

From nginx log:

your.ip.address - - [20/Feb/2024:03:48:47 +0000] "POST /inbox HTTP/1.1" 200 0 "-" "Lemmy/0.19.3; +https://lemmy.ca"               
your.ip.address - - [20/Feb/2024:03:48:49 +0000] "POST /inbox HTTP/1.1" 400 0 "-" "Lemmy/0.19.3; +https://lemmy.ca"         
your.ip.address - - [20/Feb/2024:03:48:57 +0000] "POST /inbox HTTP/1.1" 400 0 "-" "Lemmy/0.19.3; +https://lemmy.ca"              

Dumping the JSONs reveals 3 duplicate files, all containing:

"id": "https://lemmy.ca/activities/create/0968bf93-ac05-4178-bf3f-28cdc65fc338"
"actor": "https://lemmy.ca/u/HairyOldCoot"
"object": {
  "id": "https://lemmy.ca/comment/7454502"            
  "content": "That was an episode of Sliders."
  "published": "2024-02-20T03:48:45.810068Z"

These are 3 Creates, not 1 Create and 2 Updates or anything. I've chosen a comment 'cos that's public info, but it's the same for all other activity too (Votes, Deletes, etc).

lemmy.ca isn't alone in this. endlesstalk.org sends everything twice (info posted here), as does lemmy.sdf.org and mander.xyz, but lemmy.ca is the only one I've seen send stuff 3 times. Other instances (e.g. aussie.zone, feddit.nl, lemm.ee, lemmings.world, lemmy.world, programming.dev, reddthat.com, sh.itjust.works, slrpnk.net) don't, but there's nothing obvious like lemmy version numbers to indicate the difference.

Whilst I'd prefer you didn't send me stuff 3 times, I'm mostly mentioning it because I doubt it's good for your own resources to send every activity by every lemmy.ca user out multiple times. Also, the OPs of my community are from Mastodon, so I imagine you're sending them the same message 3 times too ...

 

I just upvoted a comment in a community hosted on my site, and in the nginx log I can see:

ip.address - - [19/Feb/2024:14:33:31 +0000] "POST /inbox HTTP/1.1" 200 0 "-" "Lemmy/0.19.3; +https://endlesstalk.org"
ip.address - - [19/Feb/2024:14:33:43 +0000] "POST /inbox HTTP/1.1" 200 0 "-" "Lemmy/0.19.3; +https://endlesstalk.org"

Dumping out the activity, I can see:

... (single vote from account on another instance) ...                   
{
  "@context": [
    "https://join-lemmy.org/context.json",
    "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams"
  ],
  "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/f102d062-dfe9-4ece-96e8-310a09b249ba",
  "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",
  "object": "https://sh.itjust.works/comment/9061222",
  "type": "Like",
  "audience": "https://lemmon.website/c/tails"
}
... (single vote from account on another instance) ...        
{
  "@context": [
    "https://join-lemmy.org/context.json",
    "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams"
  ],
  "id": "https://endlesstalk.org/activities/like/f102d062-dfe9-4ece-96e8-310a09b249ba",
  "actor": "https://endlesstalk.org/u/freamon",
  "object": "https://sh.itjust.works/comment/9061222",
  "type": "Like",
  "audience": "https://lemmon.website/c/tails"
}
... (single vote from account on another instance) ...        

It's the same for comments too (if I grep the dump for other people's comments, there's only one, but there's two for comments made by me)

EDIT: can also see dupes from lemmy.ca (they actually sent the same Like 3 times).

 
 
 

After 6 years, project 4K80 (the 4K fan-edit of Empire Strikes Back) finally has some release candidates.

The linked post details why it took so long (compared to 4K77 and 4K83), and the plans for the future.

It's something I'll download when they've worked on it a little more. For now though, Adywan's 'The Empire Strikes Back Revisited' remains my favourite version.

 

Given the shared underlying protocol, I didn't like that if I saw something interesting on Mastodon, and wanted to post it on Lemmy, I'd have to screenshot it and/or re-attribute it to me rather than the original author.

Tails is an experimental community. Instead of announcing just what a Lemmy user has posted, it announces what a Fediverse actor has posted. This means that, so far, it's featured posts from Mastodon accounts like Mr Lovenstein, warsandpeas, George Takei, Low Quality Facts, and other interesting people. Lemmy users have been able to reply to the author, and have also replied to those other Mastodon accounts that responded.

You can see for yourself at !tails@lemmon.website

(the usual rules apply: if you're the first person on your instance to do this, you'll likely get a blank screen or an error. Wait 10 secs or so, press refresh, and you should have it).

 
 

For Season 1, it took a extra year for the FX ... so maybe this means Season 2 will appear in February next year?

Maybe they were able to get some done during the strikes. Or maybe Andor will get shoved up the priority queue. Either way, it could even be out later this year.

Looking forward to it either way. I'm sure I'll find time to squeeze in an extra rewatch of Season 1 in the meantime ...

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