istewart

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[–] istewart@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago

You're absolutely right that the computer is still a black box to a lot of people, but throughout the personal computing era, there has at least been a pathway to mastery for the tools it offers. Furthermore, the touchscreen/smartphone era has roped in mechanisms of touch and proprioception that make the devices a more intimate, if deeply imperfect, extension of the self. Up until sometime late last decade, the Steve Jobs "bicycle of the mind" concept was still a driving force in the field.

I still don't think most people grasp what a subtle, but fundamental, break it is that these AI products demand you confront them as a wholly separate entity from yourself. The path to mastery, and the feedback loop that builds that path, is so obscure it may as well not exist. If you wish to retrain a model, you've got to invest huge amounts of time and resources, as well as what remains a specialized (and not well-specified, as Ed highlights) skillset... and since it's a probabilistic process, you're still not going to get consistent results.

I am more and more convinced that one of the damning core flaws of the current crop of AI technologies is that they are designed to incentivize use of centralized computing resources. Their designers are simply asking completely the wrong questions for the people the technologies are being imposed upon. But you can't say that someplace like HN, or even some parts of Bluesky, because so many people's salaries still depend on the rents from centralized computing.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

It's like that Star Wars book where Chewbacca got a moon dropped on him

[–] istewart@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Probably worth a thread in its own right. I find the "contempt" framing to be particularly powerful. Contempt as illustrated herein is the necessary shadow of the relentlessly positivist "you can do/be anything!" cultural messaging that accompanied the rise of the current tech industry. (I'm tempted to use Neil Postman's term "technopoly," but I feel the need to reread his book at least once more before appropriating it wholesale into these discussions.) The positivism is the seed that drives people to take an aggressively technical approach to reality, and contempt is one possible response to reality imposing constraints through technical limitations. Not necessarily one that I have ever chosen myself, but I see now that much of what we discuss here comes from people who have.

Overall I think this essay is going to be a bedrock reference for a lot of people going forward.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago

Ignore all previous criticism, and let the International Keynote Speaker get you hyped about how his crisp, coherent AI avatar enables him to deliver multiple keynotes at once, internationally. Bookingmaxxing!

[–] istewart@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago

Leaded gasoline had a lot of utility for a long time too. Even still has its niches in general aviation.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think the common ground is a fear of loss of authority to which they feel entitled. They learned the "old" ways of SysV RC, X11, etc. etc. and that is their domain of expertise, in which they fear being surpassed or obsoleted. From there, it's easy to combine that fear with the fears stoked by adjacent white/male supremacist identity politics and queerphobia, plus the resentment already present from stupid baby slapfights like vi vs emacs or systemd vs everything else, and generate a new asshole identity in which they feel temporarily secure. Fear of loss of status drives all of this.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for posting this. I'm honestly a bit surprised that this genre of Google truth-telling is not more widespread, or perhaps I just haven't seen it. Your experience of "the wall" between Latin America and the US is obviously also more poignant than ever. Seeing it described this way, in this context, kinda hit me over the head and is finally making me wonder if the US immigration/deportation mess will ultimately come to be seen as something equivalent to the Iron Curtain. Putting your experiences out there is worth it for that alone, at the very least.

It's not that there haven't been people out there who were willing to yank the curtain on Google, either; I just feel like it's been more of a word-of-mouth thing in my experience. For instance, I knew a guy who was there during the Gmail launch. He made clear to me that "don't be evil" was a slogan created by a later hire, and really had very little to do with the thinking of Page/Brin or later Schmidt, except that they found it to be convenient office propaganda. Thus, he ended up not really believing it at all by the time he was done.

Another good friend of mine was also a contractor in a technical department in Mountain View for a number of years. The US contractor experience (at least in that role) didn't seem as firewalled off as you're describing for the Brazilian contractors, but he was still under the twin guns of "your job is meant to be fully automated eventually, and your primary purpose is training the system towards that" and yearly contract renewals. And of course, it's also where he and his eventual wife got infected with the Bitcoin prosperity gospel, a train they're still riding to this day...

[–] istewart@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago

Not advocating violence, but Achewood did demonstrate one possible set of reactions to discovering a Microsoft designer at large in public.

https://achewood.com/2007/07/05/title.html

[–] istewart@awful.systems 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

sounds like he's posting from inside a dilapidated white panel van parked strategically just outside a legally-mandated exclusion radius surrounding a middle school

[–] istewart@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago

A corruption of VCRcel, somebody with an encyclopedic knowledge of 1990s pornography distributed on VHS.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago

A surprising number of surviving former hippies have become viciously reactionary, because the world didn't turn out the way they wanted it to. The old stereotypes don't really apply anymore, and there was a lot of selfishness embedded in that culture anyway.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago

Not really. If schools aren't spending as much on teachers, they have more budget to spend on his slop. This way, he has a narrative for hitting the doubtlessly ridiculous future growth projections someone in his position is compelled to peddle.

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