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[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

While I wouldn't normally sympathize with "MAGAts" I would say especially in this case the people that are being hurt the most our the people I would consider victims of a system of anti-science and anti-education.

We can point the finger at the individuals that choose this (excluding their poor children obviously) but I think it's unfair to point that finger when the vast majority of them are essentially "children" in terms of their education.

I would sooner judge individual well educated liberals that fall victim to "new age heal yourself remedies" than I would the the highschool dropout in the southern state that "doesn't trust the government."

They are both victims to misinformation but one is given significantly less information (and more propaganda) to come to the wrong conclusions.

Idk. I just pitty them more I guess. I just see them as victims to a larger narrative that only benefits the ruling class. I can't really bring myself to place blame on them. Only pitty.

If the blame for measles resurgence can be put on a few idiots. Then, well, society has failed. There is no scenario in which a handful of people can cause that. It is a systemic problem that needs to be reflected on.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago

While I wouldn't normally sympathize with "MAGAts" I would say especially in this case the people that are being hurt the most our the people I would consider victims of a system of anti-science and anti-education.

We can point the finger at the individuals that choose this (excluding their poor children obviously) but I think it's unfair to point that finger when the vast majority of them are essentially "children" in terms of their education.

I would sooner judge individual well educated liberals that fall victim to "new age heal yourself remedies" than I would the the highschool dropout in the southern state that "doesn't trust the government."

They are both victims to misinformation but one is given significantly less information (and more propaganda) to come to the wrong conclusions.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

I really wonder what Canadian capitalist are thinking. I guess their thoughts are to try to keep Canadian politics as "Liberal" as possible to avoid growing anti American sentiment along with anti capitalist sentiment (something that obviously goes hand in hand). I'd guess they are trying to avoid that connection and working to maintain national solidarity in place of what could very quickly be class solidarity if they are not careful.

Because at the end of the day the capitalist class of Canada is essentially just an extension of US capital. And I'm not saying this in an "Americas hat" kind of way. It's just how global capital works and even more so with Canada because of its geographical proximity.

I worry the capitalist in Canada are working to ensure the "pro Canada anti-American" politicians are well within their hands. And when the point comes to squeeze the working class of Canada harder it will likely be done through the means of "Canadian Nationalism"; and ensuring the masses view their suffering as a fault of "America" and not for what it really is; an attack in both countries on the working class.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I mean the average person in the professional/managerial class is not Che. The entire point is to analyze it from material incentives. That is the tools of dialectical materialism that we have at our disposal.

The material interests of the professional class aligns with the capitalist class. I'm in that class technically. I'm a well paid software engineer that gets a large portion of my pay in stock. I'm doing well.

I know that my material interests are aligned with the success of capital. I have to make a conscious choice to be a class traitor and work against my own material interests. And that's easier for me. I'm not even a manager or a landlord.

You're kind of proving my point using an example like Che. He literally was educated into Marxism through personal experience throughout motorcycle diaries.

The average person in the professional/managerial class is not like me and definitely not like Che.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 7 points 13 hours ago

The UN has no power against the United States. The UN was setup to favor western powers and ideally prevent them from having direct war with one another again. Until the US bombs another Western country in the UN there is so reason to look to the UN for anything but empty condemnation.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

He's essentially calling you a Nazi and apparently you're too stupid to understand that.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 10 points 14 hours ago

Imperialism and Settler colonialism create war in the middle east.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Sure. My point wasn't that. My point is that there are still a not insignificant amount of people that are a part of the professional/managerial class who's material interests align with that of the ruling capitalist class of billionaires.

There is still a portion of "working" people that benefit enough from neoliberalism that they continue to believe that capitalism is a fair system that benefits hard work.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago

One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.

MLK, A letter from Birmingham Jail 1963

A much better person to quote and something we actually know he wrote.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago (8 children)

There absolutely are. There are a lot of people at the top (not even billionaires) that are making tons of money as the working class suffer.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I mean if you're gonna reply with such little substance just don't reply at all mate.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago

You know when you think someone is wrong you should probably provide evidence or reason for WHY you think that?

Just saying "wrong" is what Trump does.

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