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This is how they're intending to respond to state and local authorities who, in compliance with their state law, refuse to assist ICE. This is setting the stage for federal vs state.
They never gave one fucking shit about "states rights."
Only states' rights to own slaves.
you're not wrong but i feel like we're dumbing it down to keep making it about race and slavery. this is just hierarchy. they want hierarchy because they're already the ones in control. they want to reinforce that control and they will use it against anyone, regardless of race.
this is about the owners vs. the people. we will need a lot of support to fight this monster.
"States rights" is a well-abused phrase of the Lost Causers. In using it here, both @SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone and I are recognizing that there is a huge amount of overlap between the current crop of shitheads and apologists for the Confederacy.
so what does that mean for solutions?
Can't wait, guess I should buy a gun. Been stalling on that one. Not that owning a gun will make a lot of difference when the federal government decides you're an enemy of the state.
It'll make it so that if you have to go down, you can take some fascists with you.
Shoot twice and go home.
You should already have one and plenty of ammo for it.
Wasn't it pretty much always the case that the states couldn't prohibit federal immigration officers, its just that they gave absolutely zero help if they were resisting?
Edit: Oh, reading fail on my part " failing to comply with lawful immigration-related commands". I get it now. Can that even be legal? What authority does ICE have over a state police officer?
Zero authority. But it's a stress test. Can we get judges to go along? Juries? What can we get them to believe is a legal command? Can we get ICE into houses without warrants? Can we prosecute Mayors and Police officials for not providing data that is a request?
They're going to push as far as people let them push. This is why the Federalist Society has been trying to pack the courts with conservative judges for decades. Defense Attorneys are going to have to step up and stop plea dealing so much stuff. But that's a lot harder to do than to say because they're criminally under resourced and over worked. (Not metaphorically in some states) In a system where the default is a plea deal to get out of jail there's going to be a lot of convictions for things that aren't actually crimes. The entire reliance on plea deals was predicated on good faith prosecutions.
You're making the mistake of thinking they plan on obeying existing laws.
That'll be interesting to watch. The president and his cronies seem to forget that the federal government isn't the only group with a US military available to them.
It'll be interesting to see what happens when a [State] National Guard receives mutually exclusive commands from [State] Governor and Little t.
God it's gotta be nice living in a state that isn't licking the boots.
My money is on that they either blew through or are about to blow through the ICE budget and are going to attempt to force the local, county, and state police to do ICE jobs. These big stupid actions ICE is doing is both inefficient and expensive and while they probably have a budget to do big shit every couple of months they probably dont have the manpower or money to do it constantly. Trying to force lower level law enforcement to do it is just the type of corporate influenced stupidity Musk and Trump would come up with.