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Are we? Seems like GPUs are not available on launch, or even after a long while. Scalpers are at it again. Should I not wait and look into the used market?

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[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 4 points 1 week ago (9 children)
[–] Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

AMD have said, the 9070 series is going to be up to 4070 ti performance. Leaks have also shown the performance between 7800XT and 7900XTX, so you can trust these numbers of course.

As for the price, AMD can say what they want, but how they've handled this launch so far doesn't sound promising. A vendor, who has the cards already, speculated about the price, and it was horrible.

Things have changed since then, but until AMD has released concrete numbers, all these leaks are useless.

I also don't know what you mean with the artificial restriction of production of the cards. Because NVIDIA is mainly producing AI cards for servers and workstations? AMD will be doing the exact same thing, since that's where the majority of the money is.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (6 children)

With the 5070 at a 550 MSRP I wouldn't be suprised to see AMD matching that for similar performance. Given all the delay shenanigans it'd be shocking for them to deliberately wait for the 5070 info and then launch with a more expensive part.

How much you end up having to pay to get one is anybody's guess, of course, as MSRP is increasingly meaningless. Since they've had cards with retailers for a while and have been delaying there may actually be some stock at launch, though. We'll see.

The idea that it would "smoke the 5070" and "nearly match the 5080" is probably just fanboyism or they wouldn't have ducked out from directly pitching it after the 5070 reveal (and if they had a 500 dollar 5080 competitor they wouldn't be cancelling their high end cards this gen).

In any case, it's immensely dumb to fanboy for multibillion dollar chip manufacturers. I just hope people can buy good, affordable GPUs from multiple manufacturers at some point. I own GPUs from Intel, AMD and Nvidia and would really want them all to remain competitive in as many pricing segments as possible.

[–] Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

NVIDIA raster performance -$50 is all AMD have done for years now and it cost them like 10% market share, which was already shit.

Unless NVIDIA just has zero stock for months and AMD is always available, I don't think that's gonna be any different.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

Oh, they're absolutely not retaking a huge chunk of the dedicated GPU market. I think what's realistic to expect if they have a good launch (readily available stock, competitive performance and price) is that they may regain a couple points of desktop install base and at least get to sell that they're moving in the right direction instead of abandoning that space altogether. Maybe some growth on handhelds and competitive iGPUs for laptops and tablets so it makes sense for them to continue to develop the gaming GPU business aggressively at least.

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