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What counts as an attack for the purposes of the invisibility spell? (lemmy.ca)
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I'm trying to figure out a ruling for something one of my players wants to do. They're invisible, but they took a couple of seemingly non-attack actions that my gut says should break inviz.

Specifically, they dumped out a flask of oil, and then used a tinderbox to light it on fire. Using a tinderbox isn't an attack, nor is emptying a flask, although they are actions , and the result of lighting something on fire both seems like an attack and something that would dispell inviz.

I know that as DM I can rule it however I want, but I'm fairly inexperienced and I don't wanna go nerfing one of my players tools just because it feels yucky to me personally without understanding the implications.

Is this an attack or is there another justification for breaking inviz that is there some RAW clause I didn't see? Or should this be allowed?

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[โ€“] perfectduck@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Similarly inexperienced opinion here, but I'd also allow it. Agree with the others that pouring the oil would be potentially visible, but definitely after the fire is lit the smoke would make the players visible when they move. Kind of like how the smoke allows you to see the tripwire lasers.

Rule of cool first and creative thinking is what makes ttrpgs great. However, you're the DM and the tone of the game is ultimately up to you.

Sounds like your players are thinking outside the box, which in my experience is nothing but a recipe for fun (and likely headaches for your carefully laid plans). Good luck.

[โ€“] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately they're thinking so far outside the box that I'm having difficulty balancing encounters ๐Ÿ˜ญ

One player can two shot a fire giant from a safe distance, yet a decent sized pack of giant rats would probably fuck up the whole party.

[โ€“] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Difficulty balancing encounters

They're being creative because they want to be powerful. They want that "wow that's clever and highly effective, you're so smart here's a one-shot" moment. So, let them. Balance be damned. Let them wipe out entire encounters if they're clever enough. Or, throw in a fluffer enemy or two that can either get "one-shot" at any moment or be a nuisance for the entire encounter

Edit: If you like friendly competition (and you should probably check with your group too) you can turn combat encounters into puzzles where you're basically trying to stump each other on how to handle a situation. Try to think tactics instead of numbers