Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

Posting Guidelines

All posts should follow this basic structure:

Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.

Rules

Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.

Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.

Some acronyms you might see.

PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
CLM - Clueless mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.

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Careful if you have a ponder.cat account: admin has expressed willingness to ban you simply for being too active in communities they don’t even mod (lemmy.cafe)

submitted 15 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Summary:

@Cat@ponder.cat was posting at a high volume to !news@lemmy.world
there is no written rule on !news@lemmy.world about post volume
there is no written rule on ponder.cat about post volume
!news is the one single community Cat was this active in
!news has no ponder.cat mods
from my understanding, all rules Cat did break were unrelated to volume (correct me if I am wrong)
ponder.cat admin @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat reaches out to Cat via comment and then DM essentially threatening account deletion if Cat doesn’t lower their activity level
Cat understandably deletes their account because who wants that

Of course, PhilipTheBucket had the right to do this, but I also think it’s exceedingly bad form and people have a right to know that this admin is willing to go above the community mods’ head like that.

Internet etiquette has dictates for dealing with undesirable yet not rule-breaking behavior that was just ignored here. Communication should be chosen before simple fist waving and threats.

I agree with this comment that this is a bait-provoked reaction. Next time I recommend:

at the instance/admin level, the creation of instance rules about volume
at the community level, advocacy for community rules about volume (i.e. “[Meta] Petition: Limit daily submissions to !news to ensure community quality”)
avoid personal slapfights to get your way
avoid escalation directly to account termination threats

Source: https://ponder.cat/post/1731587

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

BPR. This could have been handled better but I don't think that the admin was powertripping.

IMO what Philip did wrong:

the issue was in a single community, so he should've let that community's mods handle it. If the user was doing this shit across multiple communities it would be different.
lack of transparency on what's considered [un]acceptable behaviour for ponder.cat users. A single "be nice" would be enough to justifiably get rid of Cat.
direct escalation, like OP said. Philip's initial comment lecturing Cat doesn't sound like an admin speaking officially; but when he does, it pops out of nowhere.

In the meantime, look at all Cat's replies in the linked thread: the user is not just being spammy, they are being uncooperative, belittling other users, and passive aggressive. This sort of behaviour should not be given a free pass, and I do think that, if Philip dug across Cat's post/comment history, he would find more reasons to ban the user from his instance... at least if his instance had some rule against poor behaviour.

Internet etiquette has dictates for dealing with undesirable yet not rule-breaking behavior that was just ignored here.

A lot of those dictates boil down to "report, ignore, move on". Reporting would do nothing, and ignoring would be bad advice - because bad behaviour tends to spread. Eventually you aren't just blocking a single person, but a whole lot... or leaving the space because why bother. As such, users in communities with lax moderation tend to monitor each other's behaviour a bit, and this is not a bad thing.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe -3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

fully agree! especially the part about it only being in a single community thats a key fact i should have mentioned :)

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