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Diplomacy dies on live TV as Trump and Vance gang up to bully Ukraine leader
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this post was submitted on 28 Feb 2025
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Oh shit. I just got here. I see Lemmy is dangerously woke too. Wishing someone to die is rather nasty. I do agree putting that on tv was stupid, world leaders should do all their negotiating (bickering) behind closed doors.
Not addressing the rest of the comment, but ”world leaders should discuss everything behind closed doors” is a dangerously shortsighted take. You do realize their job is to represent you, right? How do you think you can verify they are doing that if you are not allowed to see and hear what’s being said?
I mean, given this is the first time in history two world leaders have negotiated a peace treaty on live tv, yeah. That is not a good idea. They need to feel Free to argue and debate for hours without worrying about pride and pr in front of millions of people. But if you are saying transparency and showing every action on tv by presidents etc is good, then are you pro Donald trump? Because no previous president has been this transparent.
After Musk testifies before House or Senate under oath, your transparency claims might become valid. Until then…
Well, it definitely isn't a good idea if you're Trump. I would love to know how Zelenskyy managed to get that kind of a meeting.
What am I saying? He probably just asked. "Hey, I would love to discuss this deal over our very valuable minerals. Let's invite the newsmedia and record the whole thing, so everybody can see what an awesome negotiator you are!" Pretty easy to win a battle of wits when your opponent is unarmed.
May the door hit your Nazi ass on the way out, scum
I someone blows up a thousand people themselves they are a murderer and its socially acceptable to want them punished. If someone causes thousands of deaths in politics or business we should somehow respect it?
Hoping someone dies is the last thing left after morality is already dead.
I'm not sure what you are stating. I have watched 'all quiet on the western front' and remember being sickened by the bigwigs procrastinating over the peace treaty while every second people were dying. Great movie by the way. War fkn sucks.
Russia started the war in Ukraine, so it seems like it is entirely Russia's fault and Russia should end it, no?
Man life must be so fucking easy for you to never feel threatened by politicians. It's all just a big TV show in your eyes isn't it?
Holy hell no. Politicians start wars and send innocent people to their deaths. It's no joke.
It was put on TV on purpose to make Zelensky look weak and make the US look strong (it's called propaganda) and so daddy Vlad can see that Trump is a good boy.
I can happily confirm that the woke mind virus is alive and well on Lemmy.
You're half right. It was put on TV to make Zelenskyy look good and for Trump and Vance to look like fools, and they played right into it.
It didn't work very well, if anything it made zelensky look human, JD look like a prick, and trump look like.. trump? I like what trump and co have done so far to fix the mess of woke and corruption, but even I didn't like trump or JD after watching this. If they really were trying to do as you say, they failed. Big time.
Then go back to Reddit.
You got banned from nazi digg for being too far to the right, and you thought that lemmy would be more hospitable?
Well, I hope you get outta here too because you are not accepted
Did you just call someone a homosexual to insult them? Are you 12? Is "LGBTQ" your version of calling someone a fag these days? Holy shit. I'm an old man, a horrible person, and a complete asshole but even I know how fucking stupid and out of touch a person sounds calling someone a ~~fag~~ LGBTQ.
No wonder even a fascist haven like reddit banned you. They were probably so overcome with cringe and embarrassment that they perma-banned you ASAP.
We are. We do not, however, support fascists, those who are ok with mocking the disabled, grifters, those who are ok with intentionally misgendering others, those who support the marginalization of minorities, people that support the sale of our country to the highest bidders, etc. You support these a-holes and what they are doing to us and this country, therefore, you will not find much acceptance from a good many of us.
LGBTQ is surprisingly unaccepting towards bigots. And I find that pretty accepting because I am not a bigot.
Accepting of who?
No one should accept bigots.
Paradox of tolerance. You wanna be a hateful bigoted asshole, don't be surprised when everyone shows you the door.
I'm not LGBTQ (although I respect them), sorry I'm just very upset with Trump and how much of a horrible person he is, or, more broadly, what the republican party is right now, I really wanted someone like Bernie who seems to actually be a good person, in power
When you aren't going to be accepted here either so...
Ugh. Ok. If you lot are as nice and accepting as you like to claim, could you point me in the direction of a website with normal people to talk to then? Cheers.
You don't want to talk to normal people. You want to talk to other bigots.
Try Truth Social. I hear that is the place for head-in-the-sand, delusional, can-not-form-a-coherent thought, group-think individuals who worship at the feet of the 🍊 💩 bag.
I could have done without the paragraph of insults, but overall, cheers for pointing me in (hopefully) the right direction to find some sanity on the internet.
Happy to help if it gets you gone. As for finding sanity there, I'm pretty sure all you'll find are grifters and bigots, but you do you.
Better woke than a fucking conservative chud.
We are woke and bang hot liberal chicks. You are an incel and masturbate to anime and the fantasy of having a tradwife, a fantasy that will never materialize. We are not the same.
Ugh.
Tough shit, I know.
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