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[–] mwguy@infosec.exchange 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

@Cryophilia @crusa187 Harris failed because given the choice <%1% of Democrats would choose her as their candidate in an open, competitive primary. When she ran for the nomination in 2020 she got less than 1k votes nationwide, among female candidates she was 5th, and when Biden announced that he wanted a black woman VP, the logical choice was Stacy Abrams, not Harris.

Harris is a deeply flawed candidate who doesn't appeal to really any single group except maybe cops. And cops always vote Republican.

On top of that, without a primary, she lacked a fresh bench of exciting Democrats to recruit to campaign and join her staff (think of the way Buttigieg was an effective campaigner in the Rust Belt for Biden) and she didn't have a competent campaign staff who knew her as a candidate and had just figured out how to be a national candidate.

The DNC failed this election by not holding primaries for a Candidate that was clearly mentally compromised. And it cost them the election. If you replace Trump with "Generic Republican" it would have been a Reagan '84 level bloodbath.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not going to argue about any of that because even in the worst case where all of that is true it's still ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE BETTER THAN TRUMP.

[–] mwguy@infosec.exchange 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

@Cryophilia I agree with you, that's why I voted for Harris, even though there are multitudes of major politicians I would support before her. But if elections were just about what was objectively best almost no elected officials would be in office. You have to at least attempt to play the game of politics and the DNC has flatly refused to do so the last three elections (and lost two of them).

This is the time to discuss that. There's a non-zero chance that the DNC tries to anoint someone like Tim Kaine like $insult to the nomination and then they loose to some Diet Trump person. And I really don't think waiting until 2032 to fix what's being broken today is a good plan.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago

At least we've moved away from "I'm a proudly stupid voter" to "unfortunately, we have to cater to the stupid ones". That's progress. I can work with that.