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[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 80 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

I know trying to make sense of the stupidity that is Trump's "plan" for America is a lost cause. But why do they speak like turning Canada into a singular state makes any god damn sense??

Also, is war inevitable? I honestly don't know. Shit is not looking good. If war breaks out, I would find a way to flee and volunteer to fight on the opposing side. No way am I supporting my country on the wrong side of history.

[–] PraxicalExperience@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

This is what I hope -- that there are enough actual patriots, people who believe in the Rule of Law and the principles our Republic was built on, and resist. That military commands will rebel, that people will be gathering OSInt for Canada, and saboteurs and vandals and lone wolves start making things miserable for the administration and anyone who supports them.

[–] RainbowHedgehog@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think war against Panama is far more likely. The idea of annexing Canada is wildly unpopular among both Democrats and Republicans. The best you could get away with is an EU type economic union. We already have some in the military who have said they won’t invade our allies.

A full on war against Canada is unlikely. Maybe a single battle?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/americans-worry-trump-too-closely-aligned-with-russia-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2025-03-13/

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago

Sabaton is gonna have so much material to work with in the coming years.

[–] match@pawb.social 34 points 10 hours ago

today seems like a good day to remember David Fagen, an American soldier who defected to fight for the Philippines against the American invasion and is remembered as a hero for it in the modern era

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 36 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

The US could attack Canada and they could take our cities in Southern Ontario easily, however, that would instantly deputize everyone else and there would be tens of millions of insurgents fighting asymmetrical warfare forever more. We would also destroy all the assets the US sought to take from us cause Canadians are vindictive AF. If we can’t have what’s rightfully ours neither can US invaders.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

There would be insurgency in the lower 48 as well.

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 36 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

As a Minnesotan. I would never fight our northern neighbors. Fuck our government, nobody wants this except trump and his cronies.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 hours ago

But he commands the military. So there is that.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

As a Seattlite, I’d be right there with ya if you’d have me.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a gun? Do you have ammo? Do you know how to use it? Do you have relevant and useful skills for a resistance? If not, what's stopping you?

[–] RainbowHedgehog@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

I know gun ranges in America are packed right now.

[–] match@pawb.social 8 points 10 hours ago

the Greater Seattle Polycule could be turned into an underground resistance movement

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago

We’d need you.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I wonder if "concern of a future us invasion" is a reason that disqualifies you from getting a PAL

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Download the manual from the RCMP regardless. Study it, if they invade you will likely come across a fire arm, and it would be best if you knew the very basics.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently lessons are booked months ahead already, everyone’s educating themselves.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 5 points 12 hours ago

Well I guess I should book now, thanks

[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 8 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, I definitely don't have loyalty to fascism. Being autistic and leftist, they will want me dead. Here's hoping that I can help in some useful way.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

No. War isn't inevitable. People have nukes and definitely will use them if needed. In other words, a cold war might occur, but maybe not regular war at least not in North America.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Trump can be talked down by people that understand reality, but not always. Putin, a much more intelligent leader, thought his invasion of Ukraine would be over in a week and look how that worked out for Russians.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

A land war at the border would give him justification to deploy military domestically for “defense”.

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I honestly think the "better" thing to do is stay inside and try to sabotage the aggressors. This would obviously require a great deal of cunning and bravery.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If you want to really sabotage the war effort, use the war to push for state secession from the union, particularly if you're in a blue state. Most of the blue states are economic engines that keep the rest of the machine ticking. If they leave, or try to, that'll be a huge kick in the nuts to any war effort.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Honest endgame here.

And if the coastal states are doing it you might even get a left-right alliance in Texas to support secession.