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They sell things that come in cups, or with napkins. Lots of people cycle/run/walk here instead of driving, seems pretty stupid.

Taking away the bins doesn't mean you don't produce rubbish....

Edit: I think there is still a bin IN the cafe, but most people eat/drink outside. Lots of people asking staff where the bins are. Still hypocritical I think though? (And still mildly infuriating to remove well used bins!)

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[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 14 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I think it's a pretty good description. Has a tarmac car park, cafe, bike hire, 3 go ape routes, wheelchair accessible routes and until recently, bins!

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

You should look up the definition of “gentrification.” There are a ton of options that don’t suggest that the homeless people in the forest are being forced out and replaced with wealthier homeless people.

Maybe “commercialized” would be a better word choice? Alternatively, “developed” or “sanitized?”

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

What does homelessness have to do with anything? Gentrification isn't specifically about homelessness, I don't see anyone else mentioning it before now... where did you pull that from?

Gentrification seems to mean the rapid renovation of an area to appeal to a wealthier crowd, which this could easily cover.

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 hours ago

Generally, usage of the term “gentrification” refers to the improvement of neighborhoods - or other places where people live, like apartment complexes - and, due to increased cost of living, the displacement of the people who used to live there. Displacement of less wealthy current residents when gentrification occurs is so common that it’s implied. If it weren’t, people wouldn’t have such low opinions of gentrification.

If a forest has been gentrified, therefore, then - if you interpret “gentrified” in the same way - it follows that people who have been living there have been displaced. And since those people were living in a forest - not in a cabin in a forest - they’re necessarily homeless. Since OP didn’t say that they were building houses or apartments in the forest, that would mean that the wealthier people who displaced them were also homeless.

Since the context was another commenter calling “gentrified forest” a cursed phrase, I don’t think I’m alone in thinking that.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io -3 points 4 hours ago

Poor people won't feel at home if there isn't trash strewn everywhere. They'd probably avoid going to that place.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 3 points 4 hours ago

You are right, I was thinking the definition more being taking it up market, fancier etc. didn't realise the term was more for the human effect.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

It's like wilderness for Europeans!