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I think the point is you’re exaggerating how easy it is for the average person to install and use something like Graphene - people are arguing it’s less that Google allows it and more that white hats have forced it and I don’t think that’s an unfair statement. Like - I’m techy, own a phone running Graphene, and will have to look into the Aurora store - hadn’t heard of it before this!
Apple seems to be pretty privacy forward at the moment and it’s true that they sell hardware more so than software, and WAY moreso than user data. For people who can’t figure out something like Graphene, Apple is certainly a better choice than Googled Android. And I think that’s valuable to be able to tell people in this day and age even if Graphene would be best overall
I'm not. It really is that easy.
But the fact that it's easy isn't the point. The point is that you have that choice. That is not a choice you're allowed with Apple.
I did tell them that, in the parent comment of this thread.
As a GrapheneOS user, and someone who hates apple and would rather not have a phone than bend to apple, and while i agree with most of what you said, i would not expect the majority of the users to be able to install graphene. I don't personally know anyone i would expect to be able to do by themselves. It's easy for you. It wasn't super easy for me, it would be difficult for most people.
I agree. It's just that you said it's easy.
Maybe you were referring to unlocking the phone, which is really easy on stock android if you know how.
The day we don't have the choice anymore is the day i stop using android. Or smart phones at all if the alternative is apple.
Well. Agree to disagree. You literally just plug it in and push buttons in the browser. It's that simple.
Ah, I didn't do it that way... I think. I can't remember. I certainly remember not wanting to because I don't trust that way. Also I use firefox and I doubted it would work. I don't know.
Okay, but you can.
It doesn't, but you can't use Chrome (or any other Chromium browser) for 5 minutes?
Although i use android i really, really don't want Google stuff on my pc. I use android because it's the only viable choice on mobile. But on pc I'll avoid chromium as much a i can. And having installed many roms the hard way before i saw no reason to make an exception.
Plus i don't like the browser doing something like that where i don't know what it's doing. If it was on firefox maybe i would trust it more, but even then...
Do you know what Firefox is doing? Do you know what GrapheneOS is doing? At some point you have to either audit the code yourself or trust it.
Seems a bit paranoid to be unwilling to have any Chromium fork on your PC for 15 minutes but you do you.