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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

When you come in "both siding" religion broadly

I am not "both siding", I am saying they have nothing to do with each other.

you're asking a lot of people who already have discarded religion to accept some part of it

Where did I do that? I simply said there is no point and no reason to try to use science to argue against religion. The fact that people seem to find that offensive makes me think there are a lot of people wasting their time trying to use science to argue against religion.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

People who think Science and Religion are opposed to one another don’t understand either one.

This was your first paragraph, you are starting with the thesis that someone like me, who has defended truth from religious attacks for decades, that I simply "misunderstand" the people who are screaming that God doesn't want us to get vaccines or learn about cosmology.

Science is on the defense against a powerful, hateful, spiteful ideology that has been wearing us all down for millenia. Religion is fucking HOSTILE so no, you need to focus your statement against the actual antagonist here. This isn't a place to use this pathetic neutral language, we have active fucking book-burnings happening in the USA right now, as schools become defunded even more than they already are.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago

you need to focus your statement against the actual antagonist here.

Agreed. The USA is less religious now than it has ever been. If "Religion", as a monolithic group, was anti-science then book burnings would have been commonplace for its entire existence and vaccines never would have been allowed.

The fact that these are more common now while the USA is less religious would suggest the problem is not the monolithic group of "religion" but instead a specific group. To me it looks a lot more politically driven than it is religious, but I would not claim that "politics is anti-science".