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[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any number of things can happen with IVF and the paternity test is literally "This child is X and Z." Courts recognize paternity tests, courts didn't watch him nut into the jar, so until we confirm with the kid's DNA - it could be anyone.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Lmao what you're suggesting is IVF fraud committed by the doctor. Are you seriously suggesting that "well maybe Elon brought someone else's sperm?" No. They signed contracts, did tests, were both very involved in the IVF process. There would be no question about paternity unless you were claiming doctor shenanigans or Elon slipping someone else's sperm in. That's NOT what's happening here.

And "courts recognize paternity tests" is blatantly false. Once a guy's name is on the birth certificate, even a negative paternity test won't get him removed in most states. Reason being that the gov doesnt need more wards of the state and if there's already someone attached, well fuck facts, it saves us money.

[–] HamstersAreLowCarb@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dr. Donald Cline sired 94 children on his patients between 1974 and 1987. I'm sure he isn't the only fertility doctor to have done so...

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So again, if you're trying to prove the doctor did something weird, yes. BUT THAT WOULD BE IN ELONS BEST INTEREST TO PROVE. He'd be freed of obligations to the child, would get his money back, and would destroy the doctor.

But Elon isn't asking.

Y'all keep getting obsessed with "well what if someone falsified something during ELONS IVF?!?". Then he wouldn't be the father and he'd be happy to take it.

Y'all keep forgetting that Elons long term plans are to abandon his children. IVF shenanigans, unless it was like "oh you've never actually had a single child", would FAVOR Elon.

So why is it the OTHER party that wants this? For her, it would only damage her case if they did IVF and it came back negative for paternity. So the only logical thing is, maybe they didn't do IVF at all.

Or if you want to get crazy conspiracy theory: Elon hasn't used his own sperm once. He acquired the DNA of a prominent Nazi(maybe even Hitler? WooOoooOooo) and has been using THAT DNA to impregnate women. She wants the paternity test not to prove he's the father and get child support, but to out this secret fact. Maybe even just asking for the test is a form of blackmail. She can make the "paternity test" threat publicly and no one sees it's really extortion.

There ya go, there's a conspiracy that actually fits what's going on, even if it is insane.

Could have been one of Trump's kids if Elon got confused and spat in the jar instead.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not defending Elon, I'm trying to make sure he's got no excuses. Many states have a process for removal of a father on grounds of DNA evidence, despite your claim, but it's certainly not an easy one.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Let me try to rephrase again.... Let's assume it's an IFV pregnancy. There is already a mile long paper trial. Specimens obtained. Medical records. Doctors notes. Nurses and doctors as witnesses. Billing receipts.

The overwhelming evidence is already there that Elon is the father. In order for Elon not to be the father, IVF shenanigans had to occur. But NO ONE is arguing that. NO ONE. And it's not Elon arguing for a paternity test to prove he's not, it's the woman arguing for one to prove he is. None of that makes any sense whatsoever if this was an IVF pregnancy like all of Elons are supposedly.

Which leads me back to my original point that so many seem to have missed: I don't think this was an IVF pregnancy. If it were, so much of this would be cut and dry unless you're suggesting Elon used someone else's semen(which then he'd be happy to ask for a paternity test knowing it'd fail) or the doctor lied(which again, it would be in Elons best interest to WANT the test). It just doesn't make sense that this was IVF. The ONLY plausible scenario I can see where this is IVF is if Elon is trying to claim she slept with someone else at the same time and he's claiming it's not his. But again, if he thought it really wasn't his for that reason, he'd want the paternity test too.

I just don't see a IVF scenario making sense here. The paternity test only makes sense to me if it was a traditional sexual encounter.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nurses and doctors as witnesses.

wait, they get to watch me nut in a cup?
like the two way mirror kind of watching or the cheering on a marathon runner by the sidelines kind of watching?

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ummm no. "Nurse, did the patient enter the room alone with an empty sample cup and exit with a full one? Did they sign the form?"

Fucking perv