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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 103 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We're on pace with Nazi Germany. If you use that as a template you'll expect:

  • Concentration camps in about 60 days (milestone reached)
  • October we're due to leave the UN/NATO
  • Draft coming in 2027 if Trump remains in power
  • In 2030 we'll annex Greenland
  • By September 2031 we will start WW3

Now a lot can change between now and then and Trump isn't a young guy, but that's the blueprint to watch.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

You want to talk about concentration camps? We're already expanding our own Black Site.

America has the highest incarceration rate in the world. The average maximum security prison holds 800-1200 prisoners. The largest, Angola, LA, holds over 8000.

Our most famous black site, Guantanamo Bay, located in CUBA (WTF?), currently holds about 120, but that's about to change. HitlerPig has already signed an executive order to build a 30,000 bed detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, and a $249 billion contract has been awarded. This will be in a remote corner of an island controlled by a hostile enemy, far out of the prying view of the courts, or the media. Anything could happen there, and nobody at home would ever known about it.

So they are now building a facility there, that will hold 30,000 prisoners. That's nearly 4 times our largest prison, which is already about 8 times larger than average. Clearly, they are intending to incarcerate far many people that they already do. I wonder who those people will be?

Perhaps the most worrisome piece of news is this: It is expected to be finished in 2030. Why would HitlerPig commit to such a facility if he wasnt going to be able to use it? Perhaps he expects to still be in power in 2030.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago

Uh, weren't y'all supposed to pull OUT of Gitmo?

What a timeline to be in that our best hope is that it's just another way to funnel money to his cronies

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago

It's not like Democrats couldn't find a use for a 30,000 bed detention facility. Anyway, of course Trump is going for a third term.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're much further ahead than them. Unlike Nazi Germany we're already the world's undisputed hegemon and all of the world's most advanced economies are aligned w us.

Even though some are starting to learn to regret it; they're still more skeptical of China or Russia than they are of us and our military presence within their borders and their dependence on our financial system ensures that they won't stray unless the bombs literally start flying and, by then, it'll be too late.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah obviously there are differences between 1933 Germany and 2025 USA, but it still takes time to do everything. Our hegemony is deteriorating, and the way I see it that's more important for global reaction speed than internal change speed.

No one currently gives enough of a shit about owning Greenland to want to invade it. The draft is key and I don't think you'll see that until after the mid-terms due to the backlash. That would put us right on the above pace.

But this is all really speculative and I don't have any particular insight or educational focus on Nazi Germany. I just grew up in the wake of it, my grandfather having fought in the pacific theater.

There are certainly better prognosticators than me to listen to, but at the end of the day it's all guesswork.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

our system has created enough mass desperation for force people to chose military service rather than living a future of destitution and that guarantees that we will never have another draft.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There is currently a recruiting crisis in 3/4 of the branches. A draft will be absolutely necessary to go to war.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago

oic, you're thinking that ww3 will need to happen for the united states to take over, but the united states is already in charge and the only ww3 we might have is w china.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you account for how much faster everything is happening? He's only been in office for nearly three months.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He was on pace for concentration camps, within a few days. He's moving fast but it takes time to drag a nation to war. We have time to oppose him. We have time for him to choke on a hamberder. With each passing day things get worse, but at what point will we collectively go further than protest? Things have to get really bad before that reaches critical mass.

What a fucking mess we've created. You know who I always wonder about? Whatever happened to the Germans who voted for Hitler? At what point did they regret it? When he turned into a madman? Or not until the Soviet and western tanks rolled into town?

Because until Trump voters start realizing what they've unleashed and start trying to take it back, nothing will stop him. So what's the German blueprint for that? I don't know.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Robert Evans had an episode of Behind the Bastards about the little Nazis. The middle class shopkeepers and middle managers that weren't top level but were in the party.

Most of them never admitted it was a mistake to support Hitler.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago

To know all of that and to think, "that's fine."

It's a kind of mundane evil I can't comprehend.

The idea that this country will burn to ash and so many people will tell themselves at least a black woman wasn't President. At least those filthy immigrants were sent to Salvadoran death camps. Too bad about my children, my business, my home, but we did the right thing. How can you look at all that and not at least think, maybe it wasn't worth it? Maybe we'd all have been better off another way?

Fuck.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You know who I always wonder about? Whatever happened to the Germans who voted for Hitler? At what point did they regret it? When he turned into a madman? Or not until the Soviet and western tanks rolled into town?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Thought_They_Were_Free

The author determined that his interviewees had fond memories of the Nazi period and did not see Adolf Hitler as evil, and they perceived themselves as having a high degree of personal freedom during Nazi rule, with the exception of the teacher. Additionally, barring said teacher, the subjects still disliked Jewish people.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's unbelievably disappointing.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Nazis always gonna nazi. It should be regarded as a mental illness.